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"U.S. warned of Embassy attack but didn't do anything"
On 9/13/2012 at 9:32:40 PM, QuickComment started the thread:
Pretty important stuff. Huzzah to it being ignored so far here.
Msg #1: On 9/14/2012 at 3:34:28 PM, Carnotaur3 replied, saying:
We shouldn't have embassies anymore. They just get attacked.
Msg #2: On 9/14/2012 at 4:58:39 PM, raptor2000 replied, saying:
Isn't it ironic how muslims don't want to be lumped in with al-qaeda and blamed for 9/11, yet when some shitty filmmaker makes some low budget film nobody has even heard about, they are willing to blame the entirety of America and go so far as to attack our embassies?
I say we pull out of countries like Libya that insist on remaining in the dark ages and let them destroy themselves. Why force our aid or friendship on coutnries that clearly don't want it?
Msg #3: On 9/14/2012 at 5:07:33 PM, QuickComment replied to Msg #1, saying:
We need embassies to conduct business.
Msg #4: On 9/14/2012 at 5:19:17 PM, Carnotaur3 replied, saying:
Over a fucking film.
Msg #5: On 9/14/2012 at 5:46:25 PM, QuickComment replied to Msg #4, saying:
It wasn't really, though. That was just something used to enrage the hardliners. It was a terrorist attack and it's continuing. But, no worries, that whole Egyptian revolution and throwing Mubarak under the bus was a great idea, Barack.
Msg #6: On 9/14/2012 at 10:15:32 PM, Varan101 replied, saying:
I'm sure he'd look great if he supported him.
Msg #7: On 9/14/2012 at 10:18:51 PM, QuickComment replied to Msg #6, saying:
We'd only been supporting him for what, thirty years? Would've been a real change of course.
Edit: As an afterthought, looking great doesn't mean shit if it's the right thing to do for our national security.
Msg #8: On 9/14/2012 at 10:59:10 PM, Trainwreck replied, saying:
The only thing I saw about warnings in your link was related to the embassy in Dhaka. Or did I just miss something? These kinds of threats are ever-present over in that part of the world, so even if they were given warning, what do you really expect them to do?
Anyway, what is much more important to see and yet completely overlooked are these photos:
Also, something like 10 Libyans died defending the US Consulate in Benghazi. It's easy to want to say, "fuck these people, they're not worth it." BELIEVE ME, I get it! But keep in mind that foreign - I mean foreign to the nation in which the violence occurs - terror groups are often behind these sort of things. Same with Afghanistan. Hell, the Afghans responded pretty damn well, all things considered, even after the Robert Bales massacre.
Looks like the same thing is happening in various Muslim countries right now. People are whipping up anger and organizing protests, but most of them are being peaceful about it. Many are denouncing the violence. I don't think letting these people rot in their shithole countries is the best solution. We need to help them make their homes a better place so the good ones can finally reject this fundamentalist bullshit.
Msg #9: On 9/14/2012 at 11:18:19 PM, QuickComment replied to Msg #8, saying:
According to senior diplomatic sources, the US State Department had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged the consulate in Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions may be targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert and "lockdown", under which movement is severely restricted.
The lockdown thing sounds pretty good if it's around September 11th. There's more to it than that, I was commenting that the story was being ignored in general.
Msg #10: On 9/15/2012 at 7:37:57 PM, Pteranadon2003 replied, saying:
I've been on top of this news since it happened, but my internet was out for a few days. I didn't mean to ignore it.
I really think this has the potential to escalate, however it should be noted that the group linked with the attack that killed our ambassador was an off-shoot of Al-Qaeda. As the photos illustrate, the violence perpetrated by these fanatics don't represent the whole culture.
Msg #11: On 9/16/2012 at 2:18:50 PM, QuickComment replied, saying:
This is what I'm talking about.
You now have the admin creating a narrative, while the state department says it no longer wants to talk about the attack because there's an FBI investigation open on it which is ludicrous, that this was some random attack over the movie alone and wasn't planned. The Libyans themselves are now saying that they were warning the U.S. about the consulate's security prior to the attack and that it was pre-planned and an act of terrorism.
The Rice they've got now was the same horrible person who John Kerry was going to use. I was so relieved when Bush won re-election. I can't stand that lady and now she's out there like a talking points machine.
Msg #12: On 9/16/2012 at 4:00:35 PM, Trainwreck replied to Msg #11, saying:
You mean this administration thinks we're dumb enough to believe this was some organic protest that just happened to escalate? Ridiculous and shortsighted - it would work more in their favor if they tried to expose it as the terrorist-planned attack that it was, rejected by the people at large (I hope the latter is true). Not only that, but their scapegoating of the video is pretty shameful.
Does anyone have the video, btw? I'm gonna go look for it...but honestly, I can't imagine it being worse than the sort of anti-religious videos I share on Facebook as it is.
Msg #13: On 9/16/2012 at 7:00:32 PM, raptor2000 replied to Msg #12, saying:
I tried watching the video, but turned it off after maybe two minutes as it was unwatchably bad. I don't mean offensive....it was, but no more so than a lot of other movies out there that have much higher budgets/production values/distribution. I just mean it was very poorly made obviously budget-less, and far from the most offensive thing I've seen on YouTube.
Like you said, it's just be beng used as a scapegoat. I have to wonder, though, why the Muslims of the world don't stage such large protests when a video goes up on the Internet of al-Qaeda beheading an innocent person. I'm not saying that makes this video right, but ascive said, there are far more offensive films out there that are barely noticed by the international community....nobody even knew about this thing until the outcry started. What makes it any different?
Msg #14: On 9/16/2012 at 7:22:05 PM, QuickComment replied, saying:
Also, when our government is pulling someone out of their house in the middle of the night for not doing anything illegal, something is seriously wrong.
Msg #15: On 9/16/2012 at 7:27:50 PM, QuickComment replied, saying:
This is the video. It's crap in a hat.