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Jurassic Park III has received a total of 64,599,919 US Dollars at theoverseas boxoffice (non-US/Canada/US territories) as of August 6th. (20 million more than 4 days ago)
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At 1:11:31 PM on 8/4/2001, jpreal said:
Here is a update:
1 RUSH HOUR 2 made $22,617,500
2 PLANET OF THE APES 20TH CENTURY FOX $ 8,357,500
3 PRINCESS DIARIES $8,170,500
4 JURASSIC PARK 3 $3,504,500
Planet of the Apes Is going to crash and burn like I predicted but it will still beat Jurassic Park 3 gross. The drop is about 60-65% on Friday (from Last Friday’s gross of $25 Million)
Jurassic Park 3 drops another 50% from last Fridays take Of $ 7 Million.
At 12:40:47 PM on 8/4/2001, jpreal said:
Again, Do the math. Jurassic Park 3 Made $80 million during It’s four day opening weekend, that is including the Friday to Sunday take of $50 million. Peal Harbor Made $75.2 Million during its four day weekend. That is including Peal Harbor'ss Friday – Sunday take Of $59 million. On It’s second week out, The Movie fell on the weekend only 50%, making $ 29 million dollars while Jurassic Park 3 fell 56% and made only $ 21 million
You did not do your math because you did not want to. You just wanted to say anything that came to your mind at the time.
If you want more proof, go to these sites.
http://www.boxofficeguru.com/
http//www.Boxofficemojo.com
The proof is there, if you want to see it.
At 11:53:43 AM on 8/4/2001, The Host said:
jpreal:
Show me your math; I showed you mine. JPIII hasn't been falling all that fast. On that note: Pearl Harbour's opening *was* larger than JPIII's, at about $59.9 million. Jurassic Park III did not make $80 million in its opening weekend, it made $50.8 million: $50,771,645, to be exact.
I did the math. My results are in the post below. Unless you've somehow found conflicting numbers, which I'd be interested in seeing, then I'll be forced to follow the drops I've outlined below, which are based upon takes as reported by Exhibitor Relations Corp.
-H
At 10:39:25 AM on 8/4/2001, jpreal said:
If you are going to act like an ass, at least get your facts strait before you talk. The only movies that have falling faster this summer has been. A.I. Pearl Harbor fell fast, not as fast though as Jurassic Park 3 On the it’s all said and Done Peal Harbor Will out gross Jurassic Park 3, and it’s opening was smaller than Jurassic park 3. If you are going to bring Lost World into this argument, Lost World Fell 53% percent while Jurassic Park 3 Fell 56%. Lost World Total Gross is $233 Million while Jurassic Park 3 will gross about $165-170 Million. You can Say that Lost World open bigger but Jurassic Parks 3 Opening weekend was only $12 Million short of Lost World Opening weekend. Jurassic Park 3 made $80 million while the Lost World Made $92 million. Despite The difference, why is Jurassic Park 3 falling so fast?
Before you start an argument for no reasons other than you want to be an ass hole, at least study what you are talking about. Because this conversation was surpose to be friendly, but you made it personal like I was trying to attack you.
Most of the films opening this summer had to compete with a blockbuster opening the following week. Each one of them fell short on its second week. The only Two Film this Summer that has falling the furthest Has Been A,I and Jurassic Park 3.
At 11:20:53 PM on 8/3/2001, The Host said:
Corerction: JPIII is one of the only films to have had another blockbuster open within a week of its opening weekend.
-H
At 11:17:43 PM on 8/3/2001, The Host said:
jpreal:
Again, I was speaking day-to-day. Comparing week to week follows the same rules as weekend to weekend. The average movie drops by about half.
Now, if you're going to argue with me, you'd best get your damn facts straight. Jurassic Park III has *not* fallen faster than any film save A.I. If you want to get technical, looking at weekly grosses (as opposed to weekends): Pearl Harbor dropped 65.4% from its first week to its second; The Mummy Returns fell 50%; Lara Croft: Tomb Raider dropped some 53.4%; A.I. fell 67.3%; Scary Movie 2 fell 54.7%, and JPIII fell 50.7%. Actually, of all the summer's blockbusters so far, only The Fast and the Furious (36.7% drop), Dr. Doolittle 2 (7.5% drop), and Shrek (38.7% rise) had smaller decreases than JPIII; the latter two movies, being children's films, do not fit within the usual summer '50% drop' paradigm anyway. JPII is also one of the only movies that had another blockbuster opening within a week of its release. It has held up considerably well.
Of course, box office does not equate quality (look at A.I.'s stunning drop). Still, the critical buzz says this film is better than Lost World, and better than most action blockbusters this summer. It has proved more durable than most action blockbusters this summer, indicating that buzz among audience goers says it's at least somewhat better than most of the summer tripe. And it has held up substantially better than Lost World (which dropped enormously in its second and third weeks), indicating that while this film wasn't as hyped as the previous, it has received a better audience reception.
Box office is not an indication of quality, but it does reveal taste. And most people seem to reasonably like JPIII. And the film is likely to do equally as well as or better than PotA. And it's held up better than most big films this summer. Which is all I'm trying to say.
So there.
-Host
At 9:17:14 PM on 8/3/2001, jpreal said:
I’m talking about the week’s gross. It drop 50%. This week, the movie made from Monday to Thursday about $10 Million Dollars. Last week The Movie gross about $20 Million. That is a big drop, and it’s falling faster than any movie this summer so far ( Not as Fast as A.I, and I’m Still Waiting for The Big Drop For Planet Of The Apes.) That is not good at all. I’m not saying People did not like it, but the word of mouth for Jurassic Park 3 is really bad. That is a big reason in the drop in tickets sales, and it is showing in dramatic levels. The general Consensus is that the movie is bad, and that it’s the worst of the series, and I agree with that view.
The Box Office does not dictate if the movie is bad, but it does show what people like, and allot of people don’t like Jurassic Park 3.
At 7:15:06 PM on 8/3/2001, The Host said:
jpreal:
We're talking daily grosses here (Monday to Thursday), not weekend grosses. You'll find that the average blockbuster movie will fall 45-55% in its second weekend; any less of a drop is considered a good sign, while any more of a drop is considered bad. Most blockbusters make one quarter to one third of their total domestic gross in their first three days of release. Thus this drop does not mean people didn't like it; it means most people were sufficiently excited to see it as soon as it was released.
-Host
At 6:37:18 PM on 8/3/2001, jpreal said:
You are you people talking about ? Jurassic Park 3 decline 56% this week, and it will decline another 50%. That is not good, and the reason for it's fall is the fact that it really is not a good film. To be honest, allot of people consiter this the worst of the Jurassic Park films. As for Planet of the Apes, It will fall 50% also, and that is not a good film ether. When every thing is said and done, I think Planet of the Apes will out gross Jurassic Park 3.
At 4:45:14 PM on 8/3/2001, The Host said:
Corrections: I meant to refer to RH2's success this weekend, not summer; JP3's take declined by only about 12% this week; and my screenname starts with an 'H,' not a 'G.'
-The Host, who says Sesame Street is really improving his alphabet retention
At 4:42:07 PM on 8/3/2001, The Host said:
PotA, in its seventh day of release, made almost exactly what JPIII made in *its* seventh day. At this rate, PotA should have a lower second weekend take than JPIII, though that largely depends on the success of Rush Hour 2. On the other hand, even if RH2 doesn't steal much business from PotA, well, it also won't steal much from JPIII. In other words: if RH2 is a success this weekend, PotA will take less than JPIII did last weekend. If RH2 is met with lukewarm reception on the summer, PotA will likely make a little more than JPIII did last weekend, but JPIII itself will hold up well. Significantly, while JPIII declined by about 23% over its first week and a shade over 20% in its second, PotA's daily take has been eroded by a third in four short days. I predict that JPIII's third weekend will be higher than PotA's, if not it's second. At this rate, JPII will probably gross more.
Knock on wood.
-G
At 3:11:21 PM on 8/3/2001, Billy Brennen said:
JP/// will win, dont worry.
Adios,
Billy Brennen
At 1:49:44 PM on 8/3/2001, The Host said:
Vinsfeld:
Large proportions of ticket sales go to the studios as royalties and (hopefully) profit. Theatres take in a slim profit -- sometimes a loss -- on movies. The vast majority of profit for theatres comes from the concession stand. Actually, to be honest, profit is kind of a rare thing in the movie world. In the last ten or twelve years, it has become commonplace for studios to heavily insure their films in order to make up for losses. As expectations of the film-going public increase, so do budgets, exponentially. Even when films make more at the box office than they cost to make, considering the proportions of ticket sales retained by cinemas, and the royalties often paid to big-name directors and actors (many of whom take a proportion of revenue as part of their contract), surprisingly few films are profitable. Insurance companies, incurring massive losses, are backing away from Hollywood. Studios are more or less freezing budgets (we won't see many Titanics for a while), and demanding larger proportions of revenues. Meanwhile, ticket prices are going up, but at a slower rate than the costs of cinemas to operate newly-installed stadium seating and digital sound systems and new projectors. We're choked at the box office, we're choked at the concession stand, yet many cinema chains are losing money or barely breaking even.
I'll tell you why the prices are so high: they're high because people demand stadium seating. They're high because people want larger screens and clearer projection. They're high because people want more comfortable seats and air conditioning. The money you pay is in the digital sound system. It is in the flashy lobby. It is on the screen -- those dinosaurs alone probably cost each of us a buck or two. Without our contributions movies wouldn't be made so beautifully, and theatres wouldn't be so nice. People complain about the admittedly massive rise in ticket and concession stand prices since the mid-eighties -- these are the same people who bask in the comfortable, climate-controlled space with the spectacular special effects before them.
Is this necessarily good? No. It theoretifcally restricts opportunities for independent films to be successful (particularly with the reliance on early money-making and swift turn-over); then again, more independent films have been released and met with success in the last decade than ever before. The only problem, really, is simply the annoyance of shelling out more: but that's the beauty of capitalism. The theatres are not actually being unfair. Long story short: you get what you pay for, and then some. You have no right to complain.
-The Host
At 12:21:24 PM on 8/3/2001, Vinsfeld said:
What do they do with all that money anyways? I bet that if you counted in the snack bar, the prices for jurassic wouldn't be 87 mil, they'd be up in the trillions. i say "Down with Expensive Popcorn!"
At 7:37:13 AM on 8/3/2001, Hans MR said:
Over 175mill so far,
I hope things will even out over the next days.
At 12:38:51 AM on 8/3/2001, SFNE GUY said:
Shame how im actually a fan of Tim Burton. He CAN do better. Just look at Sleepy Hollow. One of the best films ever made.
At 12:37:17 AM on 8/3/2001, SFNE GUY said:
POTA WAS THE MOST BOOOORING PIECE OF TRASH IVE EVER SEEN!!!!!!!!
At 8:17:50 PM on 8/2/2001, raptor13 said:
Jp3 is don awsome...even though POTA has won in the 6 day run it only won by like 3 million...POTA is not a remake...but it's origional but not...JP3 is the #rd inthis series...so if POTA is doing better it should be doin better tan this...it's almost losing to a 3rd movie in a series...and this is the first (POTA)that isnt sayin much for PoTA
At 8:17:24 PM on 8/2/2001, SFNE GUY said:
SHUT UP!
At 7:24:02 PM on 8/2/2001, Nedry1 said:
If only they opened Jurassic Park 3 on friday.... But hey it's still a better movie!
At 7:09:07 PM on 8/2/2001, Mark Wahlberg said:
HA HA! THE APES RULE SUPREME!
At 6:37:09 PM on 8/2/2001, DarkKnight said:
Reason for POTA dropping on Saturday also is because, its got a HUGE fan base, so ALOT of the fans went out and saw it on its opening day Friday. Same with JP3...all the fans saw it on its opening day, Wednesday.
At 6:23:01 PM on 8/2/2001, Glen said:
<b>Hey Dan,
maybe the link wasn't clear, but JP3 took 43 million dollars overseas...not 23!!
When you go to<a href="http://lascincomuertes.com/forum/jurassicpark3boxoffice.html" target="_blank">http://lascincomuertes.com/forum/jurassicpark3boxoffice.html</a>you always have to scroll down to the latest update:)</b>
- Glen
At 6:01:57 PM on 8/2/2001, jpreal said:
I don't think there is cause for joy. Jurassic park 3 is falling by half every week. By the end of it's run, It will Do $160-$170 Million. It's good, but no where close to the first two films.
At 5:40:01 PM on 8/2/2001, Overaptor said:
Yeah, I saw the star from POTA on TRL, they made JP3 look pretty bad, in my opinion.
At 5:32:04 PM on 8/2/2001, pj said:
i know the reason jp3 makes more on saturday. kids cant' always go at night but they go in the day on saturday. pota was aimed at the mtv audience.
At 5:31:51 PM on 8/2/2001, Overaptor said:
Go JP3! Pass Pota!
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Go JP3! Pass Pota!
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At 5:28:46 PM on 8/2/2001, pj said:
on monday, jp3 made one million and pota made 8. then it went to jp3 two mill. and pota 7. now it's pota 6 mill. and jp3 2 million again. see. things will even out. and it will just be a slow marathon
At 5:25:58 PM on 8/2/2001, pj said:
i said before. after three days. pota was only 3 million ahead. and things are evening out as pota is out longer
At 5:08:43 PM on 8/2/2001, DarkKnight said:
You're right, The Host! I really hope both films do well and cross over 200 million! I'm a Jurassic Park fan but also a Tim Burton fan so I don't want to see either drop largely.
At 5:03:13 PM on 8/2/2001, The Host said:
DarkKnight:
You can't compare PotA's and JPIII's daily earnings (Monday to Monday, Tuesday to Tuesday, etc) as you did later in your post. Jurassic Park III had three days longer in the theatres by last Monday than PotA had this Monday, making the comparisons irrelevant. More important is another sort of day-to-day coparison you made prior: sixth day to sixth day, etc. And, by that, PotA is doing better. That being said, still more significant for these two films (considering their nearly identical grosses) is the comparison of decline, by which Jurassic Park III is winning. It may end up overtaking PotA in the next few weeks, but it's difficult to say for sure.
-H
At 4:58:50 PM on 8/2/2001, The Host said:
Dan:
Jurassic Park III after six days: $87,257,895
Planet of the Apes after six days: $90,473,593
-Host
At 4:54:49 PM on 8/2/2001, DarkKnight said:
No, no... Planet of the Apes IS beating JP3 day to date. JP3's SIXTH day was a MONDAY and it made 5.9 million for a total of 87.3 million. Planet of the Apes's SIXTH day was yesterday, Wednesday, and it made 6.2 million for a total of 90.5 million.
So Planet of the Apes IS still ahead.
And yes POTA is performing better mid-week. On Monday JP3 made 5.9 million. Monday, POTA made 8.2 million. Tuesday, JP3 5.7 million. Tuesday, POTA 7.5 million...see
At 4:54:47 PM on 8/2/2001, The Host said:
Wednesday was only Planet of the Apes' sixth day, as mentioned, not its eighth. It *is* doing better -- so far -- than Jurassic Park III.
What's more important, however, especially considering how close these films' cumes are, is the proportion each is moving down day-by-day. Film analysts, after all, compare the second (and sometimes third) weekend of a film's release against the first to make judgements. Take Pearl Harbour, for example: it did far better than, say, The Mummy Returns in its initial weeks, but will end up with a smaller overall take.
Looking at the numbers, you'll find that JPIII's Saturday figures have been consistently higher than its Friday numbers (which is normal), whereas PotA made less money on Saturday than on Friday. Moreover, weekday numbers are declining faster for the latter film. PotA's daily earnings have declined about 25% since Monday, wheras JPIII's declined 20% over the same period last week. This Wednesday, JPIII's earnings were actually almost 90% on Wednesday what they were on Monday.
Personally, I'd say it is too tough to call. I'd predict both films ending up in the $180-185 million range; I'd like to think JPIII will be slightly higher, but it's a difficult to say. Certainly it's holding up better than PotA, which would indicate audiences are more satisfied with the Jurassic flick, but PotA's early momentum might be enough to carry it through.
The test will come this weekend. Rush Hour 2, a rather different film than the (relatively) similarly-themed JPIII and PotA, is released. How well the other two stand up to this subtle counter-programming will be revealing.
-The Host
Film student extraordinaire (so I've got an excuse for knowing this stuff)
At 4:49:43 PM on 8/2/2001, Darknodin said:
the fact that JP opened a wednesday is not at it's advantage at this time (it is on the long run)
example...
JP3's first day is a wednesday which is a day when most of us work and are tired and have to work the day after (but there was the opening hype)
POTA's first day is a friday... we work that day but after is the weekend! we can stay late, and why not go see a movie!
second day for JP is a thursday which is the same as wednesday
second day for POTA is saturday when peeps have even more time for movies (though the favourite movie night is friday)
the numbers should even soon
people went to see jp3 on wednesday... then on friday... then on tuesday (i dunno about you but here movie theatres were FULL)
people went to see pota on friday (A LOT) then an onslaught of people throughout the weekend, then it fell down... fast!
I say that on the long run JP3 will win...
and apes is not doing better in mid-weeks than jp3 did...
At 4:47:43 PM on 8/2/2001, gurdas said:
we Will just seee at the End who really WON?
At 4:39:49 PM on 8/2/2001, Dan said:
Oops, I was counting today as a day. But JP3 was still beating POTA on it's 6th day.
-Dan
At 4:30:34 PM on 8/2/2001, DarkKnight said:
And those numbers are wrong anyways...yesterday, POTA was in its 6TH day, not its 8TH, and has 90.4 million. JP3 in its 6TH day, made 87.3 million. So POTA is still winning even though JP3 got Wednesday and Thursday as part of its opening!
At 4:16:15 PM on 8/2/2001, DarkKnight said:
Those numbers don't really count. "Jurassic Park III" opened on a WEDNESDAY! Thus giving it TWO full days ahead of "Planet of the Apes". POTA is doing better both weekend AND mid-week sales than JP3! Apes will win.
At 4:02:07 PM on 8/2/2001, JP fan said:
Told you JP3 would beat POTA at the box office.
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