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Thids has yet to be published in a scientific journal, but there is actually a pterosaur with a head-crest similar to that of Pteranodon, which had a toothed beak.
At 1:59:18 PM on 6/3/2001, Krabby Jo said:
This really ticks me off. Sure, I like brainless monster movies as much as the next guy, but DAMMIT, leave dinosaurs (and pterosaurs) in their natural state! They're NOT movie monsters! They're REAL animals!
It's sad when people don't want to learn or engage in any strenuous brain activity, they only want to be entertained; "Who cares? It makes them cooler!" ...well, where's entertainment gonna get you in the big scheme of things? Nowhere! KNOWLEDGE, LOGIC, TRUTH, ACURACY- appreciate these, people!
Whoa, I just got *way* too philosophical over toothed pteranodons...but DAMMIT, IT PISSES ME OFF!
At 11:33:54 AM on 6/3/2001, Tango said:
I guess it would be ok if they explained that they're not supposed to have teeth and that it was InGen's doing, yes I somehow doubt that that is going to happen.
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At 4:27:58 AM on 6/3/2001, Neelis said:
I think that somebody at Stan Winston Studios made a mistake by giving them teeth. The problem is solved but they didn't made it official yet. Or maybe there are two different species, one is geneticly changed, the other not.
How about Toothy and toothles?
At 2:40:09 AM on 6/3/2001, Tango said:
BORING?!?!?!? HELL NO! Come on its a Pteranodon! How could it be boring without teeth?? And yes, a toothless beak could still inflict a hell of a lot of damage. But the whole "boring" thing is exactly the point. They want to portray these creatures as real animals, yet they give the pteranodons teeth? Its totally unecessary and inappropriate. I really don't know how anyone could percieve any of these animals as "boring" in their natural God-given state.
But like I said before, those who think Pteranodons without teeth are boring should stick to watching Godzilla and King Kong movies, while the others who appreciate realism should care about the JP movies, and how accurately these animals should be portrayed.
At 10:34:21 PM on 6/2/2001, LSF45 said:
Question, how would you all feel if it didn't have teeth? Wouldn't that make it more boring?
LSF
At 6:42:07 PM on 6/2/2001, Faulkner said:
i think pteranodons are already deadly, even w/o teeth....and if you want more proof that a toothless beak can be deadly, look at todays dinosaurs...they are deadly to the animals the prey on, and they gots no teeth....i could easily imaging like say a pteranodon dive bombing a raptor, impaling it and then opening its jaw all the way, ripping the sucker in too...weather or not it be physically possible, it would be cool....and see the thing is....tigers are just too ordinary....dinosaurs of the past are just awe ionspiring from the get go...weither or not its a baby corythosaurus hatching from it's egg to a tyrannosaurus rex taking out a sauropod in one bite dinosaurs don't need the hollywood treatment, unfortunately some have like the raptors...
At 5:43:52 PM on 6/2/2001, T-rex vs. Spinosaurus said:
Alright, here's my example of what they'd be doing with the pteranodons in JP3. Say tigers were exctinct and they were making a movie similar to a JP movie where the people bring tigers back to life. Well, tigers are really scary and deadly, but the people decide to give the tigers ankylosaur-like
clubs on the end of their tails, because it would make them scarier and more deadly. That's like what will happen in JP3 if they give the pteranodons teeth.
At 4:53:24 PM on 6/2/2001, Tango said:
Wow, I actually got the JP3 Pteranodon toy today and it is VERY accurate. No teeth! Well here's hoping for teethless Pteras in JPIII. Only time will tell for sure.
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At 2:03:26 PM on 6/2/2001, Faulkner said:
As i sed before, if they wanted to use smart dinos they shulda used Troodons...who wrer the actual cheetahs of the dino world...the only thing the dromaesaurs have on them are a greater firepower....and this picturer of the pteranodon with teeth maybe one of those cheap promo pictures they show around...and also....if you all remember that free inkworks jp3 promo card which had a clear shot of the pteranodon's head w/o teeth...and all the other pictures of the dinos in that series ive seen look like pictures of the animatronics....although i have yet to confirm that....abnd another thing...people mentioned the toy had no teeth, now as i recall the jp3 toys were getting very accurate compared to the others....so i dunno
At 12:11:34 PM on 6/2/2001, Utahraptor111287 said:
Actually Hans, there hasn't been a skull found of Quetzalcoatlus northropi, you're right, BUT, I believe there has been a nearly complete skull found of Quetzalcoatlus sp., a smaller relative of northropi, and it had NO teeth. Still, pteranodon's with teeth does suck.
"They're flocking this way." -
Tim Murphy
At 10:47:30 AM on 6/2/2001, RaptorHiss said:
About the smart raptors, Its a movie.would you rather see smart cool dinosaurs running around eating people or dumb dinosaurs that do absolutly nothing.Me I pick the smart dinos.And we don't know how smart they really were.As long as they are not to smart and start doing weird stuff.
At 10:37:32 AM on 6/2/2001, T-rex vs. Spinosaurus said:
Good example!
At 9:18:51 AM on 6/2/2001, Tango said:
Here's an example I just thought of. On a hypothetical level, lets say that I've decided to make a movie about the real-life dangers of people approaching the territories of hippos, possibly the most dangerous animal in Africa. Now this animal is already dangerous and cool looking, but I think it would look a lot cooler if I put horns on the hippos right above their eyebrows. What do you guys think? Pretty good idea right? :/
At 9:15:07 AM on 6/2/2001, Tango said:
We never said it would be a stupid movie, because I personally think it'll be an awesome movie. I just really don't understand why some of you would RATHER have something fake as opposed to something real. Boggles my mind. Sure a pterosaur with teeth is "cool," but there are plenty of those kinds of pterosaurs that Johnston could have chosen from instead of purposely butchering an animal that DID NOT have teeth. Again all I have to say is "winged and toothless."
At 4:52:07 AM on 6/2/2001, nich said:
thanx for ur backup procomsognathus
At 4:51:32 AM on 6/2/2001, nich said:
At 4:50:56 AM on 6/2/2001, nich said:
ok here it is, how do we know exactly how big a spino is anyway they have only found that 1 skeleton or something, god and if the pterandadon didnt have teeth what would it do, gnaw their arms off??????
i love the movies and i ccant wait for this 1 but u guys have just gotta shut up and see the movie before u say its stupid.
At 1:18:36 AM on 6/2/2001, kiyone said:
I'm surprised that there's so much more outrage about Pteranodon's dentistry than there is about Velociraptors being "smarter than primates". To me that's clearly the biggest scientific no-no we've seen.
Part of the appeal about the JP movies is the scientific realism (relative compared to other films). As Tengo and others have already mentioned, this is not King Kong or Godzilla. When we see a JP film or read one of the novels we want real dinosaurs, not mutants or monsters. If we're just trying to make things more exciting why don't we have the spino blowing fire or give the raptors tentacles that leap out and grab people. Trust me, there have been enough monster movies and if that's all Jurassic Park was it wouldn't have become the phenomenon it is today.
One of the sad things is, since is something people in this world try to avoid like the plague (or maybe it's just here in America). In any case, for most people the only exposure they have to paleontology is Jurassic Park. The movies get a lot of press for being so "accurate", and I think the cast and crew has a responsibility to live up to that reputation. As long as the teeth are small and not T-Rex dagger sized I say this is a small offense, worse than the Spino exaggeration but not as bad as the Einstein Raptors. I hope this is the extent of JP3's scientific sins.
At 12:11:09 AM on 6/2/2001, tyranosaurus-R said:
I think that the pteradons having teeth will be better. the only thing inacurancy i care about is the 26,000 pound spinosaur. When in real life it weighed 4 tons. it makes me mad that the most powerful jaws of all time is going to fall to a munch lighter built weaker jaws spinosaur.
At 9:47:55 PM on 6/1/2001, Tyrannosaurus said:
That's very odd. It may turn out for the better, don't knock it until you see it.
At 8:51:42 PM on 6/1/2001, raptor13 said:
no one had a big problem with the dilos in jp because their name doesn't mean "non poison spitting and no crest on the head" but paranodons means winged and toothless hence NO TEETH! i mean c'mon why put them in if the name mean no teeth! Unless the teeth are exlained into the movie as like a mutation or something...but that's even if it's in the movie (the teeth) so if jack horner is working on the film also don't u think he would say something? i dunno i just think if they have teeth it wil be stupid! catch my drift?
At 8:41:15 PM on 6/1/2001, eLeMeNt said:
yo... all i can think of when i see teeth in Pteranodons is Daffy Duck... fuckin toothed duck... that's ridiculous... if their are teeth on them anyway i doubt they'll be noticable... unless the pteranodon stops and smiles for the camera...
by the way, FALKNER, the raptors actually were quite accurate in size, but not to what they were called... the velociraptors were actually Utahraptors but it wasn't discovered until after JP was made... so technically, it was pretty accurate...
At 8:36:40 PM on 6/1/2001, Mallon said:
I've also had confirmation from a friend of Crash McCreery's that _Pteranodon_ has teeth in JP3.
At 7:58:12 PM on 6/1/2001, Faulkner said:
i don't think they'll have teeth in the movies...so far almost every dinosaur in Jurassic Park has been more or less accurately portrayed...except the questionable dilophisaur poison and crest, and making the raptors look like no know dromaesaur...first of raptors wrern't that smart, or fast, troodons were...second most dromaesaurs were the size of wolves, in fact troodons wrer that size, and third the dromaersaurs didn't have heads like that, real raptors looked like the ones in disneys dinosaur....don't believce...look it up...and all of you think the spino thing is an exaggeration when it is not...judging by the length of the vertebrae(back-bones for all you uneducated), which were 19-21 cm, compared to t-rexs 16 cm show that the dinosaur was most likely bigger....although not heavier....t-rex was alot heavier
At 7:12:17 PM on 6/1/2001, Ernest14 said:
Look at the new poster for JP3 the one it show a picture of the petradon with NO NONE NOTA teeth. But who really gives a shit.if u don't want to here all the inacurate info then dont red it u Moron's. Think Think Think
At 6:12:22 PM on 6/1/2001, procompsognathus 2.0 said:
I give you smad props nich, you're what makes America great.
At 5:59:56 PM on 6/1/2001, nich said:
fellas its just a movie who cares if the pteranadons have teeth, good i thought they werent very scary until now. and everyone seems to love the dilos even though they were added a frill and spitting poison, nothing compared to this, so calm down this movie is going to be smad.
At 1:48:32 PM on 6/1/2001, procompsognathus 2.0 said:
Well first of all Grant said that before had his little romp with thr Visitor Center Raptors. As for the other, yeah that was in a spoiler, sorry. Monsters are creatures made up to scare little children. I think those raptors scared Lex and Tim right proper. While a Brachiosaurus can be accepted as a graceful animal, rexes and raptors are quite easily monsters.
At 1:40:42 PM on 6/1/2001, Tango said:
McLaren24:
True some pterosaurs had teeth yes, but no species of Pteranodon ever had teeth.
Go here for some fantastic pterosaur restorations:
http://www.pterosaurs.net
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At 1:39:24 PM on 6/1/2001, Tango said:
Well I don't know about the whole Grant calling dinosaurs monsters in JP3 (guessing its something that I missed in a spoiler that I didn't want to see), but all I know is that wasn't his attitude in Jurassic Park:
Lex- "Don't let the monsters come over here!"
Grant- "They're no monsters Lex, they're just animals."
Perhaps Grant means monster in the size department. As far as size goes, both T-Rex and Spinosaurus are monster animals, but not truly monsters.
But I just don't get why they'd even bother having Jack Horner consult on the film if this kind of crap is going to happen with the Pteranodons. "Winged and toothless" is all I have to say.
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At 1:36:24 PM on 6/1/2001, McLaren_24 said:
The pteradons in The Lost World had no teeth...
I am not sure but are these really pteradons or cousins, cuz some flyin ones had teeth.
At 1:30:11 PM on 6/1/2001, procompsognathus 2.0 said:
Hey, lets all get bent out of shape about the dentistry (or nondentistry) of an extinct pterosaur. While My only guff would having a generation of youngsters beleive in toothed Pteranodons I would be more worried if they never openend a real book and instead took everyhing in movies at face value. However, I think this tooth thing is being over played. Every picture I've seen has toothless Pteranodons, perhaps it is only the young ones that attack Ben that have teeth? Either way if Speilberg wanted scientific accuracy he would have either guided Johnston in another direction or would have directed the film himself! I think it will be done in a way that will provide some thrills. I recently read in countingdown an article saying JP3 is just for fun. I appreciate accuracy, what I don't appreciate is some guy in the next seat saying the whole movie is bunk. Finally, on a personal note, these creatures are monsters. Grant even now agrees. They were never pure blood dinos and now look and behave in manners nature never intended. Although they would be exciting to see.
At 1:06:38 PM on 6/1/2001, kiyone said:
I can only hope this isn't a sign of things to come. I was a little worried when I first heard of the Pteranodons because I know that one of the reasons their big scene was cut from TLW was because it would have been scientifically inaccurate. Did Johnston just decide anything goes in this movie? He's already having a fish eater trump the Rex.
At 10:46:26 AM on 6/1/2001, Hans MR said:
Well said Tango,
but i sure hope for a jp4
At 10:07:57 AM on 6/1/2001, Tango said:
That's a horrible thing to say Icrazy4JP3! Why go see the JP movies at all then when I can just see King Kong fight a T-Rex in an old black and white movie? The JP movies are not JUST movies thrown together really quick by nobodys. One thing that Spielberg wanted to make sure was that the dinosaurs were as scientifically accurate as possible, not beefed up for thrills and chills, and that's why he got world-renowned Dr. Jack Horner to help him out. Sure raptors were six feet tall for added effect in JP, but that's nothing really to complain about when you've got blantantly mutilated Pteranodons! Pteranodon literally translates to "Winged and Toothless" so if they wanted a Pterosaur with teeth then they should have picked a different one. I still can't believe that anyone would be ok with the idea of having science take a backseat to horror. These aren't monsters, they're animals and they should be portrayed as so. With this I really hope there is no JP4, because it seems like these movies are becoming less and less scientific as far as dinosaur anatomy goes.
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At 10:03:32 AM on 6/1/2001, Hans MR said:
The old Hans is dead.
At 9:48:31 AM on 6/1/2001, Icrazy4JP3 said:
c'mon people! Its a movie! If you want science, watch discovery channel, if you want an awesome movie, see Jurassic Park 3.
At 9:45:06 AM on 6/1/2001, Hans said:
A scull of Q is not found, so nobody knowes.
So that would be better than a pteranodon with teeth.
At 9:42:32 AM on 6/1/2001, Tango said:
If its any kind of comfort, the teeth are not large at all in the Pteranodon I'm looking at. All I can say is that I hope this whole "teeth" thing hits the cutting room floor, or was maybe just an idea to begin with. So far we have:
1.) A Pteranodon in the Jurassic Park Institute Dinosaur Field Guide with teeth,
2.) Specific mention of Pteranodons with teeth in the Jurassic Park Institute Dinosaur Field Guide, and
3.) Tiger Electronics Handheld games and keychains featuring Pteranodons with teeth.
But we also have seen,
1.) An Inkworks JPIII trading card with a Pteranodon that appears to be toothless, and
2.) from what I've heard, the currently released RE-AK-A-TAK Pteranodon toys are toothless.
I would like to think that the JPI:DFG is talking about something that was supposed to happen in JPIII but was eventually abandoned, but somehow I doubt it.
Reconsider, Joe?
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At 9:20:20 AM on 6/1/2001, Utahraptor111287 said:
oops, sorry
At 9:20:03 AM on 6/1/2001, Utahraptor111287 said:
(font color=Cyan)This sucks, but that IS after all just the dinosaur field guide, maybe (and hopefully) it's only in the field guide. Oh, and Quetzalcoatlus didn't have teeth, Hans.
"They're flocking this way." - Tim Murphy(/font)
At 8:36:42 AM on 6/1/2001, Jurassiclaw said:
you see ? here are the three main dinosaurus of JP3 :
Spinosaurus
Velociraptors
Pteranodons
And Universal has to give them HUGE exagerations ! Ugh !
At 8:35:21 AM on 6/1/2001, Jurassiclaw said:
Okay, Universal is REALLY starting to piss me off here. First the HUGE Raptors, then the 65 foot spino (at least 20 ft. less that THAt in reality) and know...what ? Teeths in pteranodons ?
ARrrrrrrrgggggghhhhhhhh !!!
Give me a break !
At 8:32:05 AM on 6/1/2001, Icrazy4JP3 said:
c,mon, look at the raptors, are they scientifically accurate? NO! So who's cares of anything else?
At 8:19:52 AM on 6/1/2001, DiloRaptor said:
I think they wanted a flying reptile with larger size than most
-the venomous clawed DiloRaptor
At 7:05:41 AM on 6/1/2001, Hans said:
Fuck shit!
Well this is very bad.
If they wanted a pterosaur with teeth they could just have used another one,like
dimorphodon or quetzalcoatlus.
At 4:30:03 AM on 6/1/2001, Sinorsis said:
ugh..., yeah i know, my frustration clouded my brain.
<ahem>
yet another funktified flying reptile.
BLARG!!!!
At 3:44:52 AM on 6/1/2001, Oviraptor said:
<i>Actually a Pteranodon isn't a dinosaur.</i>
At 3:24:06 AM on 6/1/2001, Sinorsis said:
ugh!!!!!
NOOOOOOoooooooooooooo!!!
Yet another funktified dinosaur.
THIS BETTER BE WORTH IT UNIVERSAL!!!!!
At 3:19:59 AM on 6/1/2001, Embryo 2000 said:
Okay yay! I'm first AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well, because I told Dan this I deserve to post first....
Uhhh... very annoying, but still, I doubt they'll be very noticeable. How big are these teeth?!
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