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    Bob Kurtz, founder of Kurtz & Friends Studios ("Mr. DNA" animation), was an original Disney "Imagineer" who worked on the designs for Disney's EPCOT Center.
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    At 2:04:31 PM on 5/12/2001, steve-0 said:
    When i said recognized, i didn't mean from JP, that island is gone. I mean from the raptors hunting Grant and co. and listening to them talk. I'm sure that Grant will be leading "his" pack, and, by raptor standards, be considered the "Alpha" of the humans. Interesting. . .

    steve-0


    At 2:29:43 AM on 5/12/2001, Utahraptor said:
    No Sorna dino can recognize Grant. We have yet to see a mimicer develop langauge, but maybe they can. Even if a Raptor could mimic english, they'd have their won voice, not sound like a specific human (well, on the island at that tiem anyway. could sound like Mike Tyson or Barry White). Troodon is not proven to eb the smratest,a nd who cares where rela Raptors are found. 1. Ther emighta bene Raptors in Montana. 2. It's fiction. Little inaccuracies are allowed.
    I hate Mark, but it seems Grant/Sattler broke up after 2 years. And Mark's job is breakign up happy homes.
    Still, a talkign Raptor could eb cool.
    Raptor: Polly wanna hat. Polly wanna Grant's hat.
    Ahh, the real reason for hsotages. We wnat really cool hat too.


    At 12:29:51 AM on 5/12/2001, steve-0 said:
    OOHH, side note!

    envision this: after the chomping and screaming has ensued, there is a confrentation between Grant and the "Alpha Female/Male." The Raptor looks like it will attack, Grant is frozen in fear. Then, the Raptor stops, turns it's head, squints at Grant. Sniffs. Recogzizes. And ever so slowly growls "GRRrrrraaaannnt." Classic dramatic zoom in on Grant. More chomping ensues.

    wouldn't that be nice?

    steve-0


    At 12:26:18 AM on 5/12/2001, steve-0 said:
    I can't believe we're going to have english speaking raptors. It's gone too far. . .

    Now, a raptor language, that's interesting. Let us recall the foreshadowing for this: Jurassic Park: The Kitchen Scene. Guess what the two raptors that enter do?


    At 11:53:08 PM on 5/11/2001, Zoologist21 said:
    </b>I thought you guys were serious for a moment about Raptors talking. Theres no way they could do it anyways. One of the reasons parrots talk and other high intelligence animals (dogs, ape, etc.) is because of the way their voice boxes, vocal cords are. In the mid-70's they did a study where some people were actually able to teach a chimp to "speak". I've heard soundbits from it and it sounds somewhat like and accident victim who's re-learning to talk with a <u>very</u> hoarse voice. Anyways, I'm no paleontology expert, but I don't think the skull of a velociraptor is right for it to "speak".

    <i>"Conservation is not a hobby, it is a way of life"</i>
    <a href=http://www.angelfire.com/ego/zoology>Zoology</a>


    At 9:33:17 PM on 5/11/2001, indy said:
    This is very cool stuff....
    keep him coming ....


    At 9:29:11 PM on 5/11/2001, Overaptor said:
    I hate Ellie

    -David

    http://davidsart.homestead.com/Daves_Art.html


    At 7:23:23 PM on 5/11/2001, gribblikk said:
    nice way to end it...


    At 6:17:55 PM on 5/11/2001, Sinorsis said:
    probably...

    no, we were just speculating that they could mimic sounds, no necessarily understand it. If they can mimic sounds, then they can mimic any language.

    but yeah, bob has the ultimate veto.

    btw, dogs barks and snarls are not direct words. The communication there comes from the inflections, loudness,etc, not to mention body language use as well.

    Natural language would not necessarily follow. You don't see "mimmicking" animals evolving to form a "language".


    At 5:50:17 PM on 5/11/2001, procompsognathus 2.0 said:
    I'm sure there's a Raptor-English/English-Raptor dictionary somewhere on Sorna. That is if anyone ever bothered to tech them to read.


    At 5:47:36 PM on 5/11/2001, RaptorCrest said:
    Plus, how would you expect them to speak English?


    At 5:46:21 PM on 5/11/2001, RaptorCrest said:
    I think that the way the raptors talk to each other is in their snarls. You know, like how dogs bark at each other, that is their way to talk. If you saw the surviver trailer, you saw the two raptors snarling or hissing at each other, I think that is them talking.


    At 5:21:54 PM on 5/11/2001, procompsognathus 2.0 said:
    Raptor: "Erric?..Erric?"
    Eric: "Mom?? Where are you?"


    At 5:16:11 PM on 5/11/2001, procompsognathus 2.0 said:
    Well I never said that the raptors would make full on interspcecies conversation...
    Raptor Alpha:"Hello Dr. Grant, is Dr. Malcolm with you on this fine sortie?"
    ...but if they are intelligent and communicate and parrots can mimic, naturally vocal subterfuge could follow. The parrot would have been an excellent plot device for that. However Bob has the ultimate veto. Rats..


    At 5:01:38 PM on 5/11/2001, Cheetah167 said:
    TLW:JP started out with good dialogue! Don't get too cocky. But if this is the quality throughout, we are, ladies and gentlemen, in for one hell of a monster movie!

    Bye the way, this damn thing sounds hella awesome!


    -Mr. O


    At 5:01:32 PM on 5/11/2001, Overaptor said:
    I hate Ellie. GRANT YOU ROCK ALL THE WAY!

    -David

    http://davidsart.homestead.com/Daves_Art.html


    At 4:13:14 PM on 5/11/2001, Sinorsis said:
    i never said it was communicating...

    But actually....

    a lot of learned behavior, actually, most...is just a form of mimmicry.

    Thanks for the clarification Bob.


    At 4:07:20 PM on 5/11/2001, BaryonyxWalkeri said:
    LOL!

    "Oh, right. Happy dinosaurs."

    Grant bounces them along the edge of the sandbox.


    At 3:54:05 PM on 5/11/2001, DinahSaur14 said:
    Page 7 has stuff in it from the trailer about the raptors, remember?

    "All our theories about raptor intelligence...."

    "They can talk to each other?" " To a degree we never imagined"

    "They were smarter than dolphins, whales, primates....."


    At 3:53:48 PM on 5/11/2001, Oviraptor said:
    <i>Yeah mimicing isn't communication anyway..</i>


    At 3:40:58 PM on 5/11/2001, splash said:
    i can do nothing but drool... more pages need to be released very very soon if you ask me


    At 3:34:17 PM on 5/11/2001, HMT said:
    Don't carry the Raptor communicating thing too far, like imitating human voices. Raptors are not parrots.

    Bob
    HMT


    At 3:07:46 PM on 5/11/2001, Sinorsis said:
    oh and btw, Troodon is supposedly, the "smartest" dino...


    Raptor vocalization. Does this mean that perhaps they can mimic other dinos to lure them into coming to them? Is this perhaps what "they set a trap, they actually set a trap" is all about? Like...the raptors mimic a human's voice, only to attack them?

    shiver.


    At 3:05:40 PM on 5/11/2001, Sinorsis said:
    oh man....procomp...i think you just hit on something. Raptors mimicking human speech. Ack!!! I don't know if that's good, bad, or just outright scary!!


    At 2:44:01 PM on 5/11/2001, Tyrannotaur said:
    Acutully Velicoraptors are only found in Mongolia so i dont know why they would find them in montana , unless they mean Deinonichus Or how ever it is spelt.


    At 1:32:53 PM on 5/11/2001, procompsognathus 2.0 said:
    Well there's your raptor intelligence theory and the key to the traps they set in the film. The parrot is foreshadowing the part where the raptors will mimic Tea Leonis whiny voice which will trap the others. I can just hear that 'cute purple one' going "Alan??Alan??"


    At 11:54:01 AM on 5/11/2001, Evilgrinch said:
    The dialogue, so far, is of a much higher quality then that in TLW.



    At 11:41:19 AM on 5/11/2001, Evilgrinch said:
    Cool.
    Bob is god.


    At 10:53:43 AM on 5/11/2001, mickey c said:
    so thats ellie's voice in the trailer saying "they can talk to each oter"


    At 9:35:58 AM on 5/11/2001, Hitmanasaurus said:
    I always thought that Troodon was the most intelligent dinosaur,not Velociraptors.Raptors are much cooler,though.


    At 9:06:02 AM on 5/11/2001, jp3chaos said:
    well we know now that line is in the beging and not some where inbetween


    At 9:03:18 AM on 5/11/2001, Zoologist21 said:
    </b>Ahhh, so that's where Grant's now infamous speech about raptor intelligence comes from.
    And I didn't know Grant had a parrot.

    <i>"Conservation is not a hobby, it is a way of life"</i>
    <a href=http://www.angelfire.com/ego/zoology>Zoology</a><b>


    At 9:03:11 AM on 5/11/2001, Bishop said:
    Getting towards the point where I'll have to stop, but I had to read this goodness.

    So hey, lots of quotes from the trailer are right here in this scene. And apparently, even Ellie has a line in the Survivor commercial - "They can talk to each other."


    At 8:56:34 AM on 5/11/2001, Zoologist21 said:
    </b>Whoa, four pages. Keep 'em coming Bob!

    <i>"Conservation is not a hobby, it is a way of life"</i>
    <a href=http://www.angelfire.com/ego/zoology>Zoology</a><b>


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