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So, rather than list your sources of feathered Velociraptors, you insist I should take your word for it, inseatd of just listing them and avoiding all yuor pointless heartache. Blow you out fot he water, squish you like a bug? Calm down, this sin't a life or death battle. Sheesh.
PS never quote soemthignb lile "Feathers for T. rex?"
A question means their wrong. And there's still no proof any of the above is correct. Or else why is it called a debate, and not a settled fact? Hmmm?
Hope you don't spend all night on this one. You're a little too obessed, and that ain't healthy. No need to give yourself a coronary, you know.
At 10:32:25 AM on 12/17/2000, Rancor said:
Ah-ha! Just remembered a few more sources(geez I'm going nuts with this).
National Geographic articles, "Dinosaurs Take Wing" and "Feathers for T. rex?"
Manual of Ornithology (college textbook)
At 10:12:10 AM on 12/17/2000, Rancor said:
(There's a few other sources I've probably forgotten at this point)
At 10:08:55 AM on 12/17/2000, Rancor said:
"You so crazy, Rancor. You do no reasearch, and make wild conlcusions, and complain to me about not doing reasearch."
I do no research? Hmm, how's this for research:
The Dinosaur Heresies by Robert Bakker
The Mistaken Extinction by Lowell Dingus and Timothy Rowe
First-hand experience with chihuahuas, "hairless cats", and manx. My grandfather owns a veterenary clinic, where I work.
www.dinosauricon.com
So, I suppose you can blow me out of the water with your extensive research, eh? C'mon, squish me like a bug.
At 2:56:22 AM on 12/17/2000, Utahraptor said:
LOL. You so crazy, Rancor. You do no reasearch, and make wild conlcusions, and complain to me about not doing reasearch. Show me a feathered Velcoirtaptor, or quit pushing feathered Velociraptors as fact.
At 5:32:40 PM on 12/16/2000, Rancor said:
"Oh wait, they don't eat meat. Humans do. Care to explain that one?"
Sure. Look at your teeth. Do you see the carnassials and enlarged canines of a carnivore? No? That's because we're omnivores with the same basic dental plan as gorrilas. Also keep in mind we can't properly digest meat unless it's cooked.
"Hairless mexcican chiouwa has the smae abncetsor as dogs do, and they are hairless. Ditto hairless cats. And the Manx Cat, as we all know, has no tail, yet share the same ancetsor as their tailed cousins. Hmm. Seems your poorly thought out theory has way too many flaws in it."
Feel a chihuahua or a hairless cat. They have fur, it's just very, very, short. And the manx does have a tail, it's just severely shortened. Seems you should do some more research before lashing out blindly, hmmm?
At 8:55:39 AM on 12/16/2000, TrikeSerabian said:
I would like to add that it would be great to see feathers on the raptors, but it is still only a rumor. Nothing has been confirmed. Has it?
At 3:15:48 AM on 12/16/2000, Utahraptor said:
To anyone how believes the Raptors will have feathers, please look up Subtle in the dictionary, then expalin how feathers fits this description. Stan Wisnton said "Subtle" changes. Feathers are a big change. These are not ahir plugs for dinos. They did not gradually add them over 4 eyars, so nobodyc an notice.
And as for you, knuckle ehad, quit using feacist logic. Featherd Raptors had feathered ancestors. possible. That is in no wya anyhting conclusive for Velociraptors to have fetahers. Unless these fetahered raptors are Velociraptors, of which they are not, you're making a blind guess, arriving at an errounous conclusion. Or do you believe that a shaved gorrilal will look like a gaint human. Remember, we have the same ancestor, so they must be identical to us. Oh wait, they don't eat meat. Humans do. Care to explain that one? Hairless mexcican chiouwa has the smae abncetsor as dogs do, and they are hairless. Ditto hairless cats. And the Manx Cat, as we all know, has no tail, yet share the same ancetsor as their tailed cousins. Hmm. Seems your poorly thought out theory has way too many flaws in it. No feathed Velociraptors found means no proof feathered Velociraptors ever existed. It's jsut a poor guess base don certian presumed evidence, and can never be fatc. Got it? And while you're checking what you got, Got Milk?
At 12:06:33 AM on 12/16/2000, Mulanzo said:
Ok.....feathers are cool and everything, but think about it- The original raptors in Jp had plain ol' browny grey scales. Then JPTLW had Tiger stripe scales. Now....Do you guys see a trend here? SCALES. If they added feathers in the third one, which only happens a few years after TLW, wouldnt that involve some sort of major micro-evoltion? That kind of change CAN NOT occur in years, it takes too long. And plus, most of these dinos were bred in the same lab from the same DNA. That would imply that there is very little difference in their genetic codes. If you created two raptors from the same DNA, you are not going to have one with feathers and one with scales. Its not going to happen. Skin color on the other hand can easily occur as an adaption to an environment, like lizards. If the JP3 raptors have feathers....then wow.....they're like .....magic raptors...
At 9:34:17 PM on 12/15/2000, Rancor said:
"Well, just because some raptors had feathers, if that's even true, doesn't mena every dromeosaurid did."
Listen up, chucklehead.
The fossils SHOW FEATHERS. Unless they all decided to lay down in a pile of shed feathers and die, they had feathers.
The feathered raptors share the same ancestor as Velociraptor. Meaning they inherited feathers. From the ancestor. THEY HAD FEATHERS. Got it?
At 7:53:10 PM on 12/15/2000, Bioweapon said:
Listen, we will wait and see.
Raptors would look very stupid with feathers, but I doubt they would evolve in 4 years. THIS IS A SEQUEL TO THE LOST WORLD!!!!!! THE THREE MOVIES WILL HAPPEN IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER! SOME PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO EXCEPT THIS!! ergh!
At 8:26:58 PM on 12/14/2000, Carter said:
The Raptors in TLW were different because some were male and some were female. The males had the tiger striped body's, the females were the dull brown colour.
At 4:51:57 PM on 12/14/2000, He_is_a_digger said:
Remember they talked about different VERSIONS of a dinosaur species in the first JP novel? The skin patterns of the raptors in JP1 and TLW werent identical as well. I wont be very surprised if theyhave feathrs this time.
At 11:28:24 AM on 12/14/2000, karmic raptor said:
i guess ornithoraptor was right about the feather thing!!!!
karmic
At 2:38:46 AM on 12/14/2000, Utahraptor said:
Well, just because some raptors had feathers, if that's even true, doesn't mena every dromeosaurid did. It's pretty stupid to update JP series to reflect current scientific theory, because it'll look extra stupid when people learn that the current theories are wrong, and we have ridiculous creatures in JP. This isn't somehtign like changing size, or adding features like spitting and crests (a possibility, at leats easily expalined.) This is downright rewriting history. The only way to explain it is by age, season, or accelerated evolution do to prolonged exposure to a much cooler environment. Or by mangled genetic manipulation. They botched the clones. Anywy,y it'll look stupid, and most people will object profusely to it.
At 11:16:37 PM on 12/13/2000, Ian said:
lol. Stuff would go alot smoother here if everyone went and researched what they were talking about before they posted dont yall think? I mean, be alot less weird ass arguements using weird ass non existent evidence. Anyone want a cool picture i just drew of this chick i knew...
At 10:24:07 PM on 12/13/2000, Joxer said:
"to cut from random commenting, shouldn't we concider the origin of the feather theory? now wasn't that just an idea someone had? i mean how could they possibly know if dinosaurs had feathers? that, like knowing exactly what they sounded like, is impossible"
Um, first of all skin impressions show feathers (remember ARCHAEOPTERYX?) Secondly 7 dinosaurus so far have been found with feather impressions, including 2 raptor species. There are no impressions for Velociraptor itself, but since it's just another raptor it definately had feathers as well.
At 8:18:19 PM on 12/13/2000, Varan101 said:
Actually...
At 8:17:36 PM on 12/13/2000, Embryo said:
It's a science fiction movie. But yes, it would suck if they had feathers.
At 8:17:25 PM on 12/13/2000, Embryo said:
It's a science fiction movie.
At 8:00:20 PM on 12/13/2000, Tanystropheus said:
They won't have feathers! There's no evidence that Velociraptor's had feathers anyway..
At 7:54:14 PM on 12/13/2000, Embryo said:
Well, there is that old rumour about DX. Maybe the disease is changing them. I'm sure they could have adapted to have some feathers in four years. Maybe the older ones don't have any, but the younger ones do...
It could be exposure to the volcanic sulphuric acid on Isla Sorna, or something. Kepp in mind, raptors had feathers in the Lost World book, so it is likely that they are using material from Michael's books!
At 7:49:38 PM on 12/13/2000, Mallon said:
All I can say is: GOOD!
At 7:49:15 PM on 12/13/2000, TrikeSerabian said:
The movie should show the latest in dinosaur theories. So I think it would be cool to see the raptors in feathers. It might not fit the story, but it is scientifically correct.
At 7:30:30 PM on 12/13/2000, Tanystropheus said:
Embryo a dinosaur can't evolve in just 4 years..
At 7:29:38 PM on 12/13/2000, Tanystropheus said:
the movie takes place after TLW.. it's a sequel not a prequel.
At 7:07:39 PM on 12/13/2000, Jp3me said:
This movie takes place between the Jurassic and The Lost World, they didnt have feathers in Jurassic, they didnt have them in The Lost World, they cant have them in this movie either, they would have to go from the first movie not having them, to growing them this movie, and then losing them again in Lost, not possible thank god.
At 7:06:14 PM on 12/13/2000, Embryo said:
Remember the tagline. It makes sense now:
"Evolution of Adventure!"
Macy has made it clear this is non-stop action, so it is a biggest adventure movie ever, and the raptors have evolved and grown feathers.
At 7:02:12 PM on 12/13/2000, Varan101 said:
reminds me of Talon from Primal Rage
At 6:28:19 PM on 12/13/2000, Tanystropheus said:
this is BULLSHIT! they won't have any feathers..
At 6:12:31 PM on 12/13/2000, Anklyosaurus said:
Feathers? How did they get them? Maybe the lysine(sp?) dificeny made the raptors evolve with paleontologists new theories.(J/K) I do not think that they would change the raptors that much, even though it would be cool. Then again that is just what I think.
At 5:25:08 PM on 12/13/2000, heeheemonkey said:
I'm not suggesting that some dinos didn't have feathers but JP dinos don't!! This would be the worst thing to happen to JP3 so far. Please don't let them have feathers. *Crosses fingers*
At 5:09:37 PM on 12/13/2000, hix said:
Feathers?! bahh! how stupid. ok, i know that raptors probably had feathers, but how would they explain the difference of feathers on them from the first 2 movies to this one? Sounds like a bad idea!!!!
At 4:52:53 PM on 12/13/2000, RaptorRex said:
They could have made a mistake. They could be Ovriraptors!
At 3:01:53 PM on 12/13/2000, RexMan said:
Relax, people! The raptors will NOT have feathers! Sheesh!
At 2:53:19 PM on 12/13/2000, Seige_6 said:
That does not sound cool. This movie is making really drastic changes to the JP series, I just hope these changes are for the better.
At 2:25:55 PM on 12/13/2000, pachysaur said:
to cut from random commenting, shouldn't we concider the origin of the feather theory? now wasn't that just an idea someone had? i mean how could they possibly know if dinosaurs had feathers? that, like knowing exactly what they sounded like, is impossible
At 2:00:14 PM on 12/13/2000, Ethan Hunt said:
Thats a funny piece of news. I doubt they would try anything that drastic on the Raptors.
Way off the subject, does anyone ever use that Instant Messanger on this site? Just wondering.
At 1:44:20 PM on 12/13/2000, Rancor said:
FEATHERS!!!!!! BOO-YAH!!!!!!
Feathers feathers feathers feathers feathers feathers feathers feathers feathers feathers feathers feathers feathers feathers feathers!!!!!!!!!!
At 1:35:55 PM on 12/13/2000, Joxer said:
Jeeze, you people seem to hate the idea of giving raptors feathers but never explain why. At least the JP dinos are catching up the 80s! Maybe in JP4 they'll catch up to the 90s and have feathered compies, then in JP5 catch up to the 00s and have *fully* feathered raptors.
At 12:44:16 PM on 12/13/2000, RexMan said:
It's a raptor head, not a spino. That picture was labeled on another site as a raptor. Besides, the jaws aren't shaped the same as the spino.
At 12:09:01 PM on 12/13/2000, giganotospinotaurus said:
That ain't a spino. It doesn't have a long snout. It's the redesigned raptor.
At 12:02:51 PM on 12/13/2000, Barbisol said:
Uhh, RexMan.. that's a SPINOSAUR not a raptor in those pics!! U PAY TENSHUN!!
At 11:49:46 AM on 12/13/2000, ornithoraptor said:
they...forget the word y
At 11:38:16 AM on 12/13/2000, ornithoraptor said:
hahahaha...that would be soooooo kewl...i hope the had feathers...
At 11:33:41 AM on 12/13/2000, Jp3me said:
Ahh... so Grant was right, they all did turn into birds and flew away. I always knew that man was a genius. Rock On
At 11:05:26 AM on 12/13/2000, RexMan said:
All you have to do is look at the picture further down on this page to see a picture of a raptor from JP3 from the webcast. It doesn't look like it has feathers to me.
At 10:55:00 AM on 12/13/2000, Evilgrinch said:
Jesus!!
At 10:51:47 AM on 12/13/2000, giganotospinotaurus said:
I really really hope not!!!
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