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Hey! Im als from the future! Oh, yeah, got som bad news for you, a year from now the World Trade Center is gonna be taken out, just a heads up.
At 11:27:58 AM on 10/8/2001, Nick Van Owen said:
Hello, I am from the future.
At 10:19:54 AM on 9/13/2000, Oviraptor said:
Some good news as well.. check out HMT's for it!
At 10:07:04 AM on 9/13/2000, Oviraptor said:
oh no more bad news the barge tipped again.. this time with equipment on it... lets hope it drys. more news and pictures at HMT.
At 3:29:06 AM on 9/13/2000, Oviraptor said:
I hope we get some good positive news soon (tomorrow) about all of this... saying maybe it wasn't as bad as they told Bob.. or was all a big cover up.. or lie that they told Bob for some reason.
At 3:14:53 AM on 9/13/2000, Utahraptor said:
Was Goldblum confirmed to not be in it? Anyway, Dodgson can be back. They just mention how he paid off Nedry, then he does whatever. If the old JP cast are retruning, it'd be a cmaeo most liekly, so I'm sure they won't mention squat.
I just wodner if the rewrites are for major plot points, or just the fillrrs, and the basic structure is stillt here, just how thye geta round to it. I alsow odner if Neill and Macy are writing to save time and money for Universal, or if they're sof ed up with it, they're doing it themsleves ("I could write a much better script than that" mnetlaity.)
At 1:19:48 AM on 9/13/2000, GoldblumRules said:
Universal might just do that. Devil's Own was a big studio film, and they had what, a half complete script at the start of filming?
At 12:43:25 AM on 9/13/2000, Owen said:
I don't believe this bad news is true. Think about it, a big production studio like Universal would NOT start filming a major film like JP3 if only 40 pages of script had been done ! I think it is obvious that Bob's source is lying. Nobody starts shooting a movie without a completed script. It makes no sense.
So I wouldn't worry about it.
At 10:57:20 PM on 9/12/2000, Rexoraptor said:
Jurassic Park has lost the LOVE that went into making the first one thats why hearing this news is rather disapointing sorry.
At 8:05:31 PM on 9/12/2000, HMT said:
GoldblumRules-So far, we haven't seen anybody else come in. Trevor Morgan should be here today. I seriously doubt we will see Jeff or Laura here. I don't know about Attenborough. I should know more in the next day or two as filming starts tomorrow.
Bob
HMT
At 3:16:35 PM on 9/12/2000, Seige_6 said:
OK robbert, ovi is not gay first of all, he is my friend and many others friend on this site. And secondly didn't everyone agree not to say if someones gay or not? Sorry for the off-the-topic comment, I just had to say that. My next comment will be on the topic.
At 3:07:39 PM on 9/12/2000, Varan101 said:
Here is the jp3 teaser site
http://www.jurassicpark.com/popup_jp3.html
Its a part of jurassicpark.com but its kind of hard to find. There is a sign at the bottom of one screen thats cut off making it hard to see
At 2:16:01 PM on 9/12/2000, robbert said:
dan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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get over to www.jurassicpark.com its wicked
do it now ok
im the first to report i get the prize ha ha overapter i beat you you GAY
ROBBERTOS2@HOTMAIL.COM
At 11:08:40 AM on 9/12/2000, Evilgrinch said:
Good day,
I am Sam Neill the old man who is in his mid 50's (53)
They told me they were going to let me be in a film.
now let me get my zimmerframe and limp down to the set to write the script.
At 8:56:36 AM on 9/12/2000, cgimage said:
Sam Neil said he at first turned down JP3 because of a bad script. It must have been 10 pages! Now it's 40! Hey, I have sympathy for the writers. It's not easy writing a feature length script on demand.
At 7:58:49 AM on 9/12/2000, Ed Regis said:
What other movies has Cameron Thor been in? I've never heard of him.-other than JP. Hollywood doesn't just make movies for the hard-core fans. They make it for eveyone. Most likely-only Jp nuts would know who dodgson is- the majority of the people seeing it might like Jp-but not follow it like everyone here. If he had a bigger role in the first two-actually-the first ONE-he'd probably be back.
At 5:06:01 AM on 9/12/2000, North2000 said:
Eventhough I've heard lots of information and stories about JP3 there still seems to be alot of mystery about the film, I like that. I regret reading The Lost World book before I saw the movie.
At 4:29:50 AM on 9/12/2000, Oviraptor said:
If they have main roles I think we would have heard about it by now... unless they are keeping some of the main actors roles a secret.
At 4:25:22 AM on 9/12/2000, GoldblumRules said:
North2000, you have a point about rumors that I constantly try to make. Unfortunately, this is the first time we have an informant who's got the goods to prove he's reliable, and these reports can't really be regarded as "rumors" anymore... some facts may be embellished, yes, but if anyone's lying to us, it ain't Bob, it's the people talking to him. We have our first close source to the production here. By the way, Bob, like Oviraptor here, I would like to know who ELSE is arriving at the island... Is there any way you can find out a complete cast and crew list? I know that's stretching it a tad, but if you can find that for us, we'd all be thankful. What I am particularly interested in: are Laura Dern, Jeff Goldblum (I don't care what all of you say about him or that stupid scoop that announced he wasn't gonna be back- he's my fave!), and Richard Attenborough going to have cameos? Dern was rumored a while ago, Goldblum was supposedly "confirmed" for years, and Attenborough, well, you can't do JP without Hammond, I'm sorry! Cameron Thor too... is he there? OK, I am getting a little nutty here.
At 4:14:55 AM on 9/12/2000, GoldblumRules said:
It sure seems like Spielberg isn't very hands on with this production. It's a good bet he wouldn't ever let it come to this if he was a hands-on executive producer. He should earn the record paycheck he's getting for this and help straighten everything out. I can almost see him pulling his hair out right now, infuriated that things are going this way. Now let's hope he decides to WORK for the $ he's getting paid.
At 4:04:26 AM on 9/12/2000, Utahraptor said:
I don't know. I mean, seems weird to elt the stars write it and all. Still, I think this confirms it sucks. If thye're reritting it ont he fly, JP3's last plot is confirmed to have sicked eggs big time. Us nay sayers ar evindicated.
Anyway, they said twoa ctor,s yet named Trevor only. Hmmm. A surprise retrunee maybe?
Dan, you should have them check this site out, and have us write it.
Oh well, Maybe Sam will make the rest of it even better than the first 40.
I think Crichton is gloating over not getting his input.
I doubt even Spelberg's concept cna fly. I still say hsi diea is killing the franchise.
I think Johnston's standing ont he shoudler sof giants, and not doing anyhting himself. Now, everyhting's spinning out of control.
Bob, you'd bette be BSing about the cannister. No one cna find it, they don't knwo it exists. Only Biosyn does, and I doubt they'll find it within the 36 hours necessray. You want them to write a good script, make it a sequel, and bring back Lex. and Dodgson And put all dinos on the Mainland, or none. None of this one (OK, two) dinos bit. And brign in some awe fatcor. We need mroe ooh and ahh. Not so much running and then scremaing.
Oh well, maybe Crichton will coem in and svae his cretaion. The wya Hammond tried with Site B.
and yes, JP was clsoe. The atcors were cast about to weeks before filming started, and didn't have much tiem to elanr the lines, because thye didn't get the scripts as soona s they were cast. It was like within 4 days for some (Talk about talent.) And then Spielberg changes the whole ending about twow eeks before they finsihed filming, which gives about as much time as to begin with to learn the parts. Hey Bob, share some of the crazy rumors. Just state them as unverified, to keep everyone tame.
And for allw e know Bob was instructed to mislead us. Until this enws appears elsewhere (like his site), I'll doubt it. And then, who knows? maybe he was lied to to fool us, and eveyrbody else. And they took one little rewirte and made all this. All I know is, I have no reason for bob to lie to us on his own. But Is till don't trust these people. Too much info revealed, too much conflciitng info.
At 11:03:45 PM on 9/11/2000, Oviraptor said:
well Bob isn't lying ... maybe the people that told him are stretching the truth some.. or making a mountain out of a mole hill.
At 11:00:28 PM on 9/11/2000, Oviraptor said:
well u and other people worry to much and don't have faith in it.
At 10:58:38 PM on 9/11/2000, North2000 said:
Even Dan said in his news some of it might not be true and/or embellished. I just think too many people believe rumors based on hearsay.
At 10:51:20 PM on 9/11/2000, indianajones said:
I admit I to am worried about the state of Jurassic Park 3. For me this movie has so much to live up to. First it has to be way better than The Lost World. Second it has to bring back the magic of the first movie. The Lost World to me was more of a monster movie than an adventure. It was way to dark to be any fun to watch. As for the trailer, I think it is awesome. At the very end you can hear some kind of new sound. Maybe its the screach from the new dinosaur. Still I don't go by trailers to tell if a movie is going to be awesome or not. Until I find out if dinosaurs will be back in the city I will hold my judgement.
At 9:28:44 PM on 9/11/2000, Oviraptor said:
uh North it's not rumors... Bob wouldn't make this stuff up!
At 9:23:10 PM on 9/11/2000, North2000 said:
It's amazing almost everyone who has posted believes any rumors about JP3.
At 9:16:35 PM on 9/11/2000, Gladiator6k said:
i finally saw the "silent" jurassic park 3 trailer.... its so depressing
At 8:58:41 PM on 9/11/2000, Jurassic Punk said:
This all sucks :( The only good thing is that its going back to Nublar. By the way Neil was not exactly young during JP so after 7 or 8 years I would think he would look older. I wonder why the writer got sacked???
At 8:45:44 PM on 9/11/2000, Oviraptor said:
and the guy that played Dodgson in JP is an actor... he's Cameron Thor and he's COOL!.. he's been in other movies!!! and who cares if people don't know who Dodgson is.. the only ones that wouldn't know is people that don't like JP... so who cares what they think!
At 8:37:48 PM on 9/11/2000, Gladiator6k said:
there are legos called the "lego studios steven spielberg movie set" It has a lego road and small buildings.comes with a digital camera so u can actually film your legos (make your own lego movie)a steven spielberg lego man,crew members, and a t-rex and baby rex (hmmmm? The Lost World?) It even has a lego guy taht looks like malcom, and sara harding!!! But they say nothing about the lost world. even thought they just copied it....
At 8:30:07 PM on 9/11/2000, Oviraptor said:
well they are stupid for not bringing him back..
At 8:24:49 PM on 9/11/2000, Ed Regis said:
He won't be back. Like I said earlier-his role was so insignificant in the first one...no one would even know who he was if he showed up again.. They never even mentioned the name Biosyn in the first movie. They didn't even say his first name! He was just the guy that gave Nedry the can. He was probably not even an actor-probably just just some casting guy or crew member they got to do it since he fit the appearance. They do that a lot-even if his name was in the credits (way at the bottom). Heck-Steven Spielburg was in Blues Brothers for a short scene. Probably just doing a favor for a casting or producer friend or something.
At 8:19:05 PM on 9/11/2000, MegaRaptor500 said:
I trust the crew of Jurrasic Park 3 will get it going.....atleast I hope so.
At 8:00:29 PM on 9/11/2000, Oviraptor said:
Bob have u heard anything about if the actor Cameron Thor ( Lewis Dodgson character in JP.) will be returning for JP3?
At 7:58:07 PM on 9/11/2000, Oviraptor said:
only thing I didn't really like about TLW was the T-Rex in San Diego.. but I still wish the movie had been more like TLW novel.. know it looks like Lewis Dodgson will never be returning.. cause he probably won't be in JP3.. unless it's just a short cameo.
At 7:55:00 PM on 9/11/2000, Creed said:
There's always some kind of problems!
At 7:51:27 PM on 9/11/2000, HMT said:
I agree with Seige, TLW was not a bad movie, just not what JP fans wanted to see. Had there never been a JP1 and TLW was looked at as a remake of the original LW, then everybody would have loved it.
Again I'll say, I really think JP3 is going to be what everybody wanted to see last time.
At 7:41:27 PM on 9/11/2000, Oviraptor said:
I'm sure it'll be alot better than TLW!
At 7:38:05 PM on 9/11/2000, Seige_6 said:
I'm still not worried, I mean you all talk about TLW being a bad movie. It wasn't a bad movie, it was a bad JP movie. So even if this is a bad JP movie, it will probably still be a good movie overall.
At 7:37:30 PM on 9/11/2000, arg... said:
Hmm.... I doubt this problem is all that major, and, as has been said several times already, most movies run into script and production problems. Anyone seen 'My Own Private Idaho'? The campfire scene was written entirely by River Phoenix and wasn't even going to be done had it not been for him, and it ended up being the best scene in the entire film.
At 7:33:19 PM on 9/11/2000, Oviraptor said:
yeah sounds like Bob is pretty busy.. he doesn't set on his butt all day!
At 7:27:23 PM on 9/11/2000, HMT said:
Goldblum-Ha! Really, what DO I do all day! Seems lately, I have been spending a whole lot of time on this. If you've seen our home page, you know what my company does. Takes tourists to movie locations in mini-buses outfitted with video and surround sound. When we get there, we show them what has been filmed at that location. That is why, when production is happening on the island, I am always hanging around because our passengers want to know the skinny. If I don't give them the right information, it could affect our whole companies credibility. So I am always praying the whole thing doesn't blow up in my face.
Once production is finished here, I will probably get back to a normal schedule and not spend so much time defending what I am saying on chatboards.
Looks like next production on Kauai is in November-"Dragonfly" with Brad Pitt. Not totally confirmed yet.
Really, what do I do? Ha!
Bob
HMT
At 7:07:52 PM on 9/11/2000, Oviraptor said:
don't worry about it to much... I'm not that worried.. I still have faith!
At 7:04:34 PM on 9/11/2000, JP Animal Control said:
Basicly I just never wanted to hear this awful news.
At 7:01:33 PM on 9/11/2000, GoldblumRules said:
The script for JP3 is likely 125- 140 pages... Spielberg likes keeping these about 2 hrs. long... Bob, by the way, what do you do all day?
At 7:00:40 PM on 9/11/2000, Oviraptor said:
I don't think they'd clear it up that fast..
At 6:58:18 PM on 9/11/2000, JP Animal Control said:
Maybe all this stuff Bob heared happened awile ago, and now it is taken care of. Just a thought.
At 6:57:55 PM on 9/11/2000, Oviraptor said:
I think they need Michael Crichtons help.. for the script.
At 6:55:29 PM on 9/11/2000, Oviraptor said:
good point Bob! so 40 pages isn't even half.. I just wasn't sure.
At 6:55:13 PM on 9/11/2000, HMT said:
JP-I really can't answer that question. I think they have their storyboards, so they know what the film is going to be about and where they are going to film, they just don't have all the words for the actors to speak, so I would imagine on the CGI work is continuing. It also seems they are just starting their promotional campaigns, knowing what is going on here, so must feel they can make the release date. But I really don't know.
Bob
HMT
At 6:51:25 PM on 9/11/2000, HMT said:
Ovirapture-Concerning your question of earlier "how many pages is a script normally". I have most of the scripts of everything filmed here, including JP1. I don't have most of them here at my office, but I did find South Pacific and it is 137 pages. If I remember correctly, JP1 was about the same size, but when I go home tonight, I will find it and tell you exactly.
Bob
HMT
At 6:48:43 PM on 9/11/2000, JP Animal Control said:
Bob, do you think the release date will stay the same?
At 6:42:49 PM on 9/11/2000, HMT said:
Oviraptor-A production like this one is a big, heavy machine saddled with contractual obligations all over the place. Arrangements must be made months and months in advance for crews, transportation, lodging, and on and on and on. Once this machine gets rolling, it is pretty difficult to stop. When all these committments were made, they assumed, I'm sure, the writers, who they depend on,and who also have a contract, were going to have an acceptable script. The point of no return had been reached, it was too late to stop it. Right now, Hawaii is setting a record year for filming of numerous major projects. There are only a certain number of crew available, equipment, sound stages, etc. You have to take it when you can get it. In addition, the actors have other projects they are committed to beyond this one, so everybody is on a timetable. All of a sudden, at the last minute, most of the script is not done, or not acceptable, and this type of situation pops up.
But you know what. I really, on a personal level, am not worried about the whole thing.(of course,I'm not paying the bills either). I just really feel we are all going the end up seeing the new JP we wanted to see last time.
Bob
HMT
At 6:42:17 PM on 9/11/2000, Oviraptor said:
I do like the fact that they are returning to Nublar.. thats wonderful news!
At 6:37:03 PM on 9/11/2000, Oviraptor said:
yeah cause they would of had to have known about the 40 pages before they got there.. or even prepared to go there!
At 6:32:06 PM on 9/11/2000, GoldblumRules said:
Oh, and Oviraptor: that is a good point. The cost of taking everything over to Hawaii only to decide to cut the scenes in half and then head back to CA and come back later to shoot the other scenes would be astronomical. I don't doubt what Bob has heard, but his sources may be confused. OK, I have better things to do right now than mope over something I have absolutely no control over (and which still MIGHT be a good movie)...
At 6:29:00 PM on 9/11/2000, GoldblumRules said:
Thanks for being understanding there, Bob. Loric, you have no idea what goes on in the film process. I'm an independent director, and have a pretty good understanding of the filmmaking process. While the director will have final say on camera angles and so forth, it is not necessarily his or her job to do that; that task is up to the DP and his crew. One more thing: actors are actors, writers are writers, directors are directors. Actors may take years of classes but this in no way at all makes them writers. And while it's a good bet Sam Neill knows a good deal more about scriptwriting than I do, at least I have a good deal of scripts which I have written to show for myself. Do you? Try not to talk about something you are uneducated about. Peace?
At 6:26:56 PM on 9/11/2000, Oviraptor said:
Here's something I'm wondering... if they knew about only the 40 pages of script.. why did they go there prepared and everything for filming.. ?
At 6:12:59 PM on 9/11/2000, Oviraptor said:
oh hush up Regis I wasn't sure about it..
At 6:05:56 PM on 9/11/2000, Ed Regis said:
Parasailing-duh.
OR Parasailing with a camera-lol
At 6:05:42 PM on 9/11/2000, HMT said:
Oh man, everybody is going wild. Please understand that in any production of this size, there are going to be problems. I also want you to know that anything I pass along is not coming from just one person. I do my best to verify that what I am saying is actually happening by getting the same information from more than one source. If I can't do that, I most likely will not pass it on. You won't believe some of the stuff I have been told that I can't verify.
Loric is correct. Every major actor on the planet has alot to do with what you hear them say. When someone says an actor is helping to write the script, it doesn't mean they are developing plot lines. They are re-writing specific lines in specific scenes.
GoldblumRules, it is easy to make a mountain out of a molehill on this. I have been a member of SAG for 25 years, have been on alot of sets and have seen constant re-writes.
What is unusual about this, in talking to people who have been involved in all three JP films, is the fact the script seems so far from being finished. This did not happen on the two previous JP's. There were always on set re-writes, but they had a script to start with. The fact they are going to have to come back to Hawaii in January and finish is going to cost millions of dollars. But when all is said and done, I feel we are all going to be happy with the product.
Also keep in mind professionals like Sam Neill, Teo Leoni and William Macy may not see a script until the night before, but will still be ready to do their scenes the next day. That is what makes them successful actors. If it was easy and did not take a very special talent, we would all be doing it for minimum wage.
Please keep in mind also, that when actual filming begins here, like almost everyone else, I won't be able to get near a set. Once the cameras roll, this whole place will turn into Ft. Knox.
Bob
HMT
At 6:03:12 PM on 9/11/2000, Oviraptor said:
why would a crew member be parachuting ... don't they have anything better to do... like working on a movie?
At 5:28:07 PM on 9/11/2000, Oviraptor said:
I didn't say Bob was lying Dan!
At 5:24:04 PM on 9/11/2000, VelociYoshi said:
Yeah people, have a positive attitude! While this news is kinda starting to push me off the optimistic(sp?) platform I've been on, I'm sticking to my guns on let's wait till we see it. If it sucks, then I'll eat my keyboard! And besides, as someone already said I beleive, many great movies started of with 40 page scripts. So, as I have said many times before, let's hold our judgements till we see it.
At 5:23:48 PM on 9/11/2000, Dan said:
Hey guys, stop questioning whether Bob is lying. He is not. He sent the news to me directly. Personally, I'm pretty upset about all this, but we have to look at it like this: this guy, whoever Bob talked to, perhaps doesn't really know what's going on. Maybe he's the guy who serves the cokes, and he's heard these things from someone else, who's heard it from someone else, etc. It's a nice story to tell, but I'm thinking it might be exaggerated.
-Dan
At 5:15:49 PM on 9/11/2000, JP Animal Control said:
What about the release date?
At 5:10:10 PM on 9/11/2000, Oviraptor said:
I still have faith in it.. if all this news is true... but I still think they lied to Bob!
At 5:05:04 PM on 9/11/2000, DH4! said:
You guys should stop being so hard on JURASSIC PARK 3. Every movie has script problems and there is always a way to make something better. Things have a kind of weird way of working out. Obviously, if you keep making yourselves think that JP3 is going to suck then it will suck. You must have a positive attitude. You guys have been coming to this site day in and day out to support a franchise that you love. You cannot give up that easy and simply say that everything is going to suck. The movie is going to take place on ISLA NUBLAR. That is what everybody wanted. JUST HAVE A POSITIVE ATTITUDE...PLEASE!
At 4:46:44 PM on 9/11/2000, Oviraptor said:
cause I don't see why they'd tell Bob all of this unless it's a big Lie.. ( But I still believe Bob.) just not the guy that told him all this.
At 4:44:54 PM on 9/11/2000, Oviraptor said:
I still think they told Bob this to keep him away from the sets.. but I'm sure he'll be going. I hope Bob still will be going..
At 4:40:12 PM on 9/11/2000, Rake said:
Indeed, they have to say the lines, and walk lfrom point a to point b, they know what's gay and what isn't. At the very least, with the actors themselves writing the script, count on the dialogue being top notch. Kinda puts the scientificness of the film in question, though. They don't know all that advanced stuff mentioned throughout JP, which was conspicuously absent in TLW (and IMHO, directly lead to its being a cheap knockoff of a sequel, though the horrible acting and raptor scenes sure didn't help).
At 4:39:46 PM on 9/11/2000, JP Animal Control said:
Bob, I just went to your site and you don't have this news on it. Why not? If you think this is true, wouldn't you post it? Seems a little odd!
At 4:32:06 PM on 9/11/2000, JP Animal Control said:
I want the movie on July 18, 2001! I don't want it to change. I have to wait long enough! Does anybody else want the date to stay the same? Bob, did they say anything about the release date? And Dan, what ever happend to the JP3 poster Brandon promised? JP Animal Control over and out!
At 4:29:21 PM on 9/11/2000, Oviraptor said:
I agree with Loric..
At 4:27:21 PM on 9/11/2000, Loric said:
To say an actor has no writing skill is ignorant. Most writers were actors, the same thing goes for directors.. That's how they know what is workable in a scene.. you people are freaking out over nothing. Rewrites happen all the time, and they probably ave the story down, now they're just deciding how it should be told. Do you have any idea how incredibly complex a good script tends to be? Having people working on it is a good thing.. They're probably weeding out inconsistencies in characters and useless scenes. If the majority of it takes place tromping about the jungle on the islands, they're most likely just picking out who says what and when and making it progress the story.. Do you know how many years of improv classes msot actors take? Do you have any idea how the filming works? The director picks the angles and general movement, the actors either take the script they've been given and make the character work, or create their own character and make the convo go as needed.. sheesh.. simmer down.. and stop insulting actors.. they know more about script writing than you do!
-Rob
At 4:25:55 PM on 9/11/2000, Oviraptor said:
and whats all this talk about Sam Neill being old? they do have make up and stuff for that yah know.. he doesn't look that old to me anyway...
At 4:22:54 PM on 9/11/2000, Oviraptor said:
I believe they told Bob that to try to keep him away from the set... cause they don't want people around the set do they? No offense to Bob..
At 4:22:38 PM on 9/11/2000, JP Animal Control said:
Wait a second! This could still work out. They have ten days, right? They could film all the scenes that ILM will but the dinosaurs in. Go to CA to do all the soundstage filming and head back in January to film scenes where the characters are walking, talking ect. So this still could work out. If it happens this way, I still think it will be released July 18, 2001. For the script problems, I have no comment. JP Animal Control over and out!
At 4:17:19 PM on 9/11/2000, GoldblumRules said:
...And Sam Neill is obviously older looking in the 8 years since they filmed JP. Bob, HMT, I don't think you're full of BS, but I have been following this industry for a long time now, and if you have as well, I don't think you'd say that I am making "a mountain out of a molehill." As far as Crichton is concerned, my opinion is, if he hasn't had much at all to do with this film up until now, he's not likely going to in the near future. I want the best for this film, and I am impressed with your coverage of it, and the locations look exciting, but rewrites mean a lot in this business. Any filmmaker can get Sam Neill and William H. Macy to film in Hawaii with enough dough attached. Most filmmakers however would prefer the actors know the lines when they get on the set.
At 4:12:18 PM on 9/11/2000, Oviraptor said:
I have a hard time believing most of this.. I believe Bob but I don't believe the guy that told him all this. Also wouldn't they have told Sam and the others before they even left for Hawaii that they didn't need them yet?
At 4:08:21 PM on 9/11/2000, Varan101 said:
The canister burried in the mud on Nublar?! It only had enough coolant for 36 hours or so. They would have to arrive at the island like right after Jurassic Park happened for those embryos to still be any good.
At 4:06:32 PM on 9/11/2000, Oviraptor said:
maybe ... probably.
At 4:01:19 PM on 9/11/2000, JP Animal Control said:
Does this affect the July 18, 2001 release?
At 3:58:30 PM on 9/11/2000, Oviraptor said:
How many pages does a script usually have?
At 3:56:26 PM on 9/11/2000, HMT said:
Hey GoldblumRules-Don't make a mountain out of a molehill, even though I just got off the phone with someone on the set and this confusion going on here is a little extreme and costing alot of money in unneeded expense.
As far as Crichton being around, he lives here alot of the time, so may very well show up by the time they start filming on Wednesday.
Regarding TLW, it wasn't the movie JP fans wanted to see, but was very successful at the box office. What it did was give them the direction to go on this one. Just keep in mind the cannister buried in the mud on Nublar.
And yes, my wife often accuses me of being full of BS.
Bob
HMT
At 3:55:29 PM on 9/11/2000, Boricua Prowler said:
It's kinda sad...but GoldblumRules is pretty much right...
At 3:51:00 PM on 9/11/2000, mrContica said:
Just one thing I thought of... may just be s tupid thought...
What if all this is a hoax?
What if things arte going well and this guy Bob talked to was telling him bullshit?
And if it is true... What if Neill and MAcy are having a great time writing the script to the movie THEY would like to star in. THat could mean crap and it could mean kickass stuff. I don't know. It's just something about that picture of Sam neill with his glasses on that make me think that he's just ready to grab a pen or laptop or whatever to write something cool...
I dunno.
I'm just trying to save the last portion of hope left in my time as a JP fan.
How tha hell can Spielberg let stuff like this happen??!! It can't be true.
At 3:41:18 PM on 9/11/2000, GoldblumRules said:
And Sam never said the script was good, he didn't even say he LIKED it, he simply said it was bad and they rewrote it and he signed on... for all we know, that was when they offered him $15 million to star in it. He would have been insane to turn that down. And JP3 is so important to Universal that at that point they would have handed an actor like Sam Neill $15 mil to star in it, if it meant saving the production.
At 3:37:28 PM on 9/11/2000, HMT said:
Hey Varan101-No idea. You would probably have an easier time getting nuclear secrets from the Pentagon than that type of info. Only guys doing CGI will know that.
Bob
HMT
At 3:36:59 PM on 9/11/2000, GoldblumRules said:
If this is true, this is HORRIBLE news. HMT, rewrites are one thing, but when the actors get to the freaking set and only 40 pages of the script are done, and the actors THEMSELVES are REWRITING THE SCRIPT, not just "improving lines," this is BAD NEWS. Can anyone say "The Devil's Own?" How about "Speed 2?" Same story there. And the same thing DID NOT HAPPEN ON JAWS. While Robert Shaw did help with writing the Indianapolis scene (I think that was more improv than rewriting- he got drunk for the scene), he didn't REWRITE any major portion of the script.
How it is SUPPOSED to be done is, come the first day of shooting, the director should be completely confident in his script, he should KNOW what movie he is MAKING so it is not a big mess. The first two JPs did not have these problems at all. And Crichton is not supposed to be there, word has it he will have a producer credit, but he's being leniant in the creative direction of JP3. And while Sam Neill is a talented actor, and he was in the first JP, this in no way qualifies him as a screenwriter.
Even if JP3 SOMEHOW turns out good, if these rumors are true, there will be a TON of BAD PRESS leading up to the release, making a lot of people wary about seeing this. Instead of "hey, I'm seeing JP3 this weekend with a bunch of friends," it's gonna be more like "I'm going to see if it's any good, but I can't get anyone to go with me!"- IF THIS IS TRUE.
I know David Koepp said he didn't want to do the third one, but at this time, it would be more than worth it if they handed him $10 million to come in and do a rewrite. I'm sure he could bring some of the quality of the first one back into this, and it would be more consistent in tone with the first two. If Koepp had at least written the first draft, this probably would not be happening. He learned from his mistakes with TLW, and he'd be intent on making this closer in spirit to the first one. At this point I wonder if ANYONE knows on the production WHAT ISLAND they are on!!!
How can this possibly be so bad?!? They had the Election writers work on it for crying out loud! Let's all hope Bob is full of BS. Additionally, Spielberg himself wrote the story concept for this... coming from the mind of the god of Hollywood, how can a concept by him be handled so inefficiently?!? Pray this is not true; if it is, I already hear a disaster the size of Hurricane Clarisse approaching this production...
Here's what Malcolm would say: "Yeah, yeah, but Joe, your producers were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they SHOULD."
At 3:21:22 PM on 9/11/2000, Varan101 said:
Hey Bob do you have any idea what the new dinosaur is?
At 3:11:08 PM on 9/11/2000, HMT said:
You guys should understand that in most major films using talented, established actors, they will often re-write their own lines to something they feel comfortable with. I really would not fret about Sam Neill and William Macy adding to this process. They both have alot of experience. Frankly, I am looking forward to a really great film. What is going on with JP3 is common in the industry. Constant rewrites.
Bob
HMT
At 3:07:54 PM on 9/11/2000, Varan101 said:
This is all very, very interesting....
At 3:07:44 PM on 9/11/2000, Seige_6 said:
Wait, just wait a minute here. Sam Neill starred in the first JP so he should know a little something about writing a JP movie. Secondly, isn't Micheal Chriton (I know it's spelled wrong) supposed to be there? So he should be helping too.
At 2:38:44 PM on 9/11/2000, Lucas said:
I know what you feel guys...When Dreamworks made "Gladiator" they only had 40 pages of script ready when they began filming. But while they were writing it, I read that Russell Crowe even pitched in and helped write part of it. That movie then turned out to be great in the end.
At 1:52:32 PM on 9/11/2000, mrContica said:
I don't believe this shit!
How can they start filming a goddamned movie without even having a ready script.
And doesn't Spielberg even have a SLIGHT eye to look over the situation.
The only thing we can hope for is that Sam Neill is a sensible man and does not suck at writing and that he in some way or another is able to bring JP back to it's roots.
At 11:48:42 AM on 9/11/2000, Ethan Hunt said:
Lets not forget that the same thing happened to Jaws. Including Shaw writing a key part in the script.
At 11:31:34 AM on 9/11/2000, Dan said:
I have a hard time believing it also. If it wasn't from Bob I wouldn't have posted it. I guess the only thing we can hope is that the person he talked to was exagerrating and it isn't as bad as he made it sound.
-Dan
At 11:26:02 AM on 9/11/2000, Evilgrinch said:
At least there is one ray of light to pull us through this disater and that is that at least 40 page worth of the movieb will be decent.
Also It is returning to the first island so yip***king eee
At 11:23:29 AM on 9/11/2000, Evilgrinch said:
What the hell is happening!
Sam Neill and William H Macy writing their own bloody scripts!
The last time something like this happened was on Speed 2 and we know what happened there!
Now someone give Joe Johnson a slap and kick him down to tv movies and lets get Spielberg back up there!
Actually I am so overwhelmed with anger I refuse to believe this is true.
Neill said himself in an earlier story that originally the script was bad but they worked on it and now it is good.
Also everyones favourite screenwriter Sam Neill(Sarcasm) is looking a bit old.
If he gets any older he'll be playing the role of John Hammond! If you agree with me email me.
At 9:34:36 AM on 9/11/2000, JP3MAN said:
What the hell is happening?! this is going to suck!
At 8:45:15 AM on 9/11/2000, Dan said:
It's unbelievable.. ugh. Someone get Spielberg over there to help, and quick!!!
-Dan
At 8:34:21 AM on 9/11/2000, Lynx2000 said:
This thing is shaping up to be a disaster? The actors are basically making up the script as they go along! What is this?
Lynx
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