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"Btw, the reason they picked Spino was because he looks unique thx to his very visible features/
If they had used a Carcharadontosaurus or another predator, the regular audience woulden't have recognized him as a different Dinosar. Then they'd just think it was another T.rex."
Talk about dumbing it down for the audiance. Maybe they could have changed the color of the dinosaur, the size of the other dinosaur compared to the T-Rex should already indicate that it's not a T-Rex... Plus I don't think people would be confused if it really was a different dinosaur.
At 10:11:49 AM on 1/28/2006, DarthRex said:
If they really want to "Cut Down Errors" in JP4, maybe they should consult Crichton... after all, he's the one who created the "science" of Jurassic Park. Truely, if they made the Jurassic Park movies realistic... there would be no Jurassic Park. That's part of the excitement of it all... People love to see the Rex break stuff and eat things, they like seeing him as "the king". The Dilophosaurus being poisonous made it more exciting... otherwise it's just a little raptor... make it it's actual size and it's not going to fit in the jeep with Nedry.
It's artistic liscence... Take that away and all you get is a summer flick... a "great popcorn ride". That's great and all, but I'd rather see something that people have actually thought out instead of a bunch of people running around in the jungle getting chased by dinosaurs. Well of course that's the point of Jurassic Park, but when the plot is just "a bunch of people running around in the jungle getting chased by dinosaurs" maybe you should rethink as to whether or not you're really out of preproduction.
At 12:19:32 AM on 1/17/2006, raptor2000 said:
They used the spino cuz they thought the fans wanted to see some other dinosaur be the king (or queen) of the island.
They really should have asked the fans first though, because they were obviously wrong.
At 5:25:08 AM on 1/15/2006, DarthMaulSithLord said:
I'm disappointed they scrapped the Spino Vs. Raptor fight.
That would've been awesome.
Btw, the reason they picked Spino was because he looks unique thx to his very visible features/
If they had used a Carcharadontosaurus or another predator, the regular audience woulden't have recognized him as a different Dinosar. Then they'd just think it was another T.rex.
At 4:12:42 AM on 1/15/2006, BigM said:
More fights between Carnivors and the Spinosaurus has realy realy to come back!!Also an carnivor killing a herbi4 will be also cool!!
BigM
At 2:17:28 AM on 1/14/2006, Jurassosaurus said:
_Gallimimus_ was not a herbivore. At best, it was an omnivore.
I want to see an _Albertosaurus_ attack a _Chasmosaurus_. Or an _Altispinax_ attack _Iguanodon_.
At 1:58:16 AM on 1/14/2006, raptor2000 said:
>>Here's another neat idea. How about having a carnivorous dinosaur attack and kill a herbivorous dinosaur? <<
They've already done that...in the first JP, the t-rex bursts out of the trees and kills and eats a gallimimus.
At 8:01:39 PM on 1/13/2006, Sinornis said:
come on guys, we all know this Horner guy is just inventing these so called "Dinosaurs" so he can give himself credit for the rocks he digs up for a living ;-)
Jurassic Park is actually a film about Math. W00t!
At 6:45:18 PM on 1/13/2006, paleeoguy said:
If you want to get the low down on ancient life, READ A BOOK. That junk they put on the discovery channel is so full of cg'd crap and creative licensing anymore, I can't stand it.
At 6:39:24 PM on 1/13/2006, Mallon said:
Keep an eye out. Horner's scavenger T. rex theory isn't the only thing to be turned over.
At 2:46:29 PM on 1/13/2006, Driveshaft 2.0 said:
Raptor, I wasn't saying YOU need to do research. I was saying these movies are meant to be fun and thrilling, they are not created for accuracy. I think any true fan knows this, as Universal execs should know this.
Hiring Horner may help with more accuracy, and true he has done some good things, but hiring him as a consultant is a waste of money. We want a good story and driven characters, dinosaurs that tear shit up. Not accurate skin and textures on dinosaurs.
My post was not meant to be negative towards you raptor, just saying that these movies I think have lost their way, as they did with JP3.
At 11:14:12 AM on 1/13/2006, pack raptor said:
At 10:54:14 PM on 1/12/2006, Driveshaft 2.0 said:
As previously stated, JP is meant to be science FICTION, if you want accuracy, do some freaking research yourself.
What the hell? Did I say I wanted accuracy? No. That would take all the fun out of it. I'm just saying that if Horner is hired again, it's not going to make that big of a difference. He won't be able to convince them to make drastic changes, so why get pissed off about it?
At 10:54:14 PM on 1/12/2006, Driveshaft 2.0 said:
Horner's a hack.
Okay, Horner may be a little nutty these days, but don't pretend that he's done nothing for paleontology.
At 10:54:14 PM on 1/12/2006, Driveshaft 2.0 said:
Horner's a hack. As previously stated, JP is meant to be science FICTION, if you want accuracy, do some freaking research yourself.
I'm all for authenticity, but come on, Horner's an idiot.
At 5:42:21 PM on 1/12/2006, pack raptor said:
At 3:30:02 PM on 1/12/2006, Jurassosaurus said:
Horner gets heckled so much because he was responsible for killing off _T.rex_.
That statement alone is a misconception. Yes, Jack Horner suggested they use the Spinosaurus. But, they were going to replace the rex anyway. It was a lame attempt by the writers to distinguish JP3 from the other films. They just asked Horner to name a big dinosaur. Then the writers decided to kill the rex off to prove spino's dominance. Sure, Horner's idea of the spino being a super-predator made them include it. However, if Horner had not advised them they would have found some other big dinosaur to do the job.
At 3:30:02 PM on 1/12/2006, Jurassosaurus said:
Horner gets heckled so much because he was responsible for killing off _T.rex_. He was the one who showed _Spinosaurus aegytiacus_ off to the world, as being a "real predator" (which seems to have resulted in making it one of the most hated theropods known to the public). If he didn't repeatedly insist on calling _T.rex_ a scavenger and if _T.rex_ fanboys would stop giving the animal a god-like status, then he wouldn't be hated so much.
As for making the animals more realistic, I think it would be great. I'd love to see a bunch of freaked out people screaming as they ran away from a _T.rex_ lying in the sun. Meanwhile the dinosaur doesn't even acknowledge their existence.
Here's another neat idea. How about having a carnivorous dinosaur attack and kill a herbivorous dinosaur?
What a concept!
At 1:23:20 PM on 1/12/2006, pack raptor said:
No, that's great. Do you want a cookie or something?
At 11:37:39 AM on 1/12/2006, DarthMaulSithLord said:
I can name a few: Bakker, Moreno, Jackass Horner....do i need to go on?
:p
At 8:21:50 AM on 1/12/2006, pack raptor said:
At 9:28:02 PM on 1/11/2006, raptor2000 said:
If you want to see what dinosaurs are really like, watch the Discovery Channel documentaries. Jurassic Park is not real...it is a science fiction thriller, and the dinosaurs were deliberately altered to be scarier. Honestly, who wants to see dog-sized raptors and trexes that only eat dead animals? They can't change it...especially not now since there's already been three movies and we've already seen what they look like and act like in the world of Jurassic Park.
I couldn't agree with you more about that. I just think that sometimes Jack Horner gets heckled for his involvement in JP3 when he really had little to do with it. But at this point, if they hire Horner he's not going to get them to change much about the dinos. As you said, too much has been invested to change them now. Any noticeable changes will probably be made by Stan Winston's art department.
At 9:28:02 PM on 1/11/2006, raptor2000 said:
If you want to see what dinosaurs are really like, watch the Discovery Channel documentaries. Jurassic Park is not real...it is a science fiction thriller, and the dinosaurs were deliberately altered to be scarier. Honestly, who wants to see dog-sized raptors and trexes that only eat dead animals? They can't change it...especially not now since there's already been three movies and we've already seen what they look like and act like in the world of Jurassic Park. You guys are right...get rid of Horner. We don't want the dinosaurs to be so realistic that they are no longer scary.
At 5:10:36 PM on 1/11/2006, Vinsfeld said:
Actually Dr. Alan Grant is the worlds leading most paleontologist
At 4:32:33 PM on 1/11/2006, pack raptor said:
Okay, well at least you just don't like him in general. However, your earlier comment's not true and you should know that. As much as you may hate Horner, you can't deny that he's one of the world's most acclaimed paleontologists. So his work wouldn't exactly be cheap. How many other paleontoligists do you know by name? I can only think of 2.
At 3:29:33 PM on 1/11/2006, DarthMaulSithLord said:
I already knew him before he even did JP.
Didn't like him then, don't like him now.
At 3:06:43 PM on 1/11/2006, pack raptor said:
(Sigh) Why do you guys blame Jack Horner for everything you don't like about the JP franchise? Seriously, he was just a paleontological advisor for the films. No one really even mentioned him until JP3 came out, then all of a sudden he became a hack that everyone blamed.
I thought that by now fans would have realized that JP3 would have stunk whether Horner was involved in it or not simply because the script was predictable. But somehow, Horner became a scape goat for the entire series because of one dull sequel.
So if you want to point fingers, and hold a grudge against somebody, do it to these guys: Alexander Payne, Peter Buchman, Jim Taylor, Joe Johnston, and Universal Studios. You know, the people that actually MADE the film.
At 3:45:18 PM on 1/10/2006, DarthMaulSithLord said:
I so hate Horner. Why do they hire him? Oh right, he's probably the cheapest.
At 3:33:01 PM on 1/10/2006, the_westonator said:
"If they really want to get rid of mistakes, they ought to get rid of Horner."
truer words have never been spoken...
At 2:19:20 PM on 1/10/2006, Trainwreck said:
I can only hope that the T Rex becomes a large, lethargic scavenger.
At 1:32:03 PM on 1/10/2006, Vinsfeld said:
fourth
At 1:05:14 PM on 1/10/2006, CeratosPit said:
BURN!!!
I hope this doesn't mean that the dilophosaurs will return only to lose their frills and venom sPit, raptors will be shrunk down in both size and brain power and Rex and sPino will be reduced to giant scaly vulture and ibis.
The more I learn about dinosaurs, the less interesting they seem to get :(
At 11:43:05 AM on 1/10/2006, Mallon said:
[child]Second!!!1[/child]
If they really want to get rid of mistakes, they ought to get rid of Horner.
At 7:58:32 AM on 1/10/2006, Jaab said:
First!
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