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    The ship that crashes in San Diego in TLW is called 'Venture', an homage to the ship that brought King Kong to New York in the classic 1933 film.
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    At 9:28:26 AM on 1/2/2006, jurassictimes said:
    The only reason kongs trex did not look good is cause its not a trex! its a Ventrosaurus!


    At 10:59:37 AM on 11/10/2005, Driveshaft 2.0 said:
    I second that on Jack Black's acting...time will tell though, I don't think he will disappoint.


    At 4:52:45 PM on 11/9/2005, raptor2000 said:
    Oh I agree, the JP trex looks alot better than the King Kong one, but the movie itself looks awesome. I just saw the second trailer for it before Jarhead yesterday and it looked awesome...although it's still hard for me to see Jack Black doing a serious role.


    At 4:07:36 PM on 11/9/2005, Driveshaft 2.0 said:
    Regardless, King Kong is going to rule...about as close to JP IV as we're going to get I think.

    And honestly, that's fine with me.


    At 11:30:24 AM on 11/9/2005, Jaab said:
    I think the JP Rex looks so much better than the Kong Rex though.


    At 12:17:48 AM on 11/9/2005, raptor2000 said:
    I think it looked awesome.
    BigM and Juniorx...please take some english classes.


    At 5:19:25 PM on 11/8/2005, juniorx eternal said:
    i didnt like it. it was too weak !! peter jackson's will be forgotten very soon...
    bad special effects!!!



    EVERYBODY!!! PREPARE FOR THE GREATEST ADVENTURE SINCE JURASSIC PARK!!!

    NEXT YEAR WE HAVE THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    At 10:17:07 AM on 11/8/2005, Jaab said:
    Have y'all seen the latest trailer from Kong? It's freaking awesome!!

    http://www.kingkongmovie.com/


    At 4:39:04 AM on 11/8/2005, juniorx eternal said:
    i tought it was a virus! there are many people that hate jp lovers!

    Mr poo poo , GOMENASAI


    At 2:49:11 AM on 11/8/2005, conor said:
    AAHHAHAHAHAH!
    BIGM!

    "What do you mean with this war clip mr or mrs poo poo?"

    you have no idea how hilarious that sounds. hahahahahahah


    At 11:04:32 AM on 11/3/2005, BigM said:
    What do you mean with this war clip mr or mrs poo poo?
    This has nothing to do with JP?!
    BigM


    At 7:58:44 AM on 11/2/2005, poo_poo said:
    http://www.culita.org/philipp/00WarTest.wmv


    At 6:37:31 PM on 10/29/2005, raptor2000 said:
    Your guess is as good as ours.
    From the look of things though, it will be a while IF one is ever made.


    At 9:37:18 AM on 10/29/2005, BigM said:
    So i havent been on this site lately and i've got not much time so here is the BIG Quetstion: Will there be soon a JP4 movie?
    Regards BigM


    At 6:37:31 PM on 10/26/2005, Driveshaft 2.0 said:
    Good point, Porter. Sometimes women are just crazy...I play Halo to make me feel better when I have relationship issues.

    Sorry to hear about everything, that totally sucks. Let me know if you need anything, man.

    And if by "normal" you mean you want a JPIV, I'm going to kill you! Haha just kidding!


    At 9:01:44 AM on 10/26/2005, Jaab said:
    Sorry to hear all this Porter. I wish you all the best.

    Take care.

    (The future will be better...)


    At 1:37:23 AM on 10/26/2005, PorterM7Z said:
    I'm still around. Both hurricanes took their toll on me in their own special way. Katrina sent my (ex)girlfriend evacuating from New Orleans and lots of stress for her ensued. (Apparently I wasn't too supportive of her situation either, according to her) Then Rita sent me running up north too. Stress and.... what I guess were always problems in our relationship started to boil and, during my excursion back to Lake Charles two weeks ago, I called her and she broke up with me over the phone after three and a half years. Got home to discover the city that has been my home for 7/8 of my life had been trashed and that there is still a giant hole in my house.

    So suffice to say, I'm pretty tore up right now. Don't really wanna talk about it much. But, yes, I am beyond devastated and depressed right now.... but things get better.... I just have to wait for it.... which sucks.

    Hopefully sometime soon, things will return to something that resembles normalcy and I'll post more in my more notoriously imaginative manner. But for now.... well we'll see what happens. But thanks for your concern, guys. It means alot.

    Oh, and on topic.... Don't hate Universal. Love them. They gave us Serenity and for that we should be eternally grateful.


    At 3:33:54 PM on 10/24/2005, Driveshaft 2.0 said:
    I don't know any details but his message seen below makes it seem Katrina was a bitch in his life.


    At 11:17:19 AM on 10/24/2005, Jaab said:
    The sarcasm was noticable :)
    What happened to Porter?


    At 10:51:27 AM on 10/24/2005, Driveshaft 2.0 said:
    *I'm not for HD-DVD, if you couldn't tell my post was sarcastic


    At 10:50:51 AM on 10/24/2005, Driveshaft 2.0 said:
    AND Universal supports ONLY HD-DVD discs!

    Yay Universal!

    JPIV should never be allowed to happen, btw.

    Sorry to hear about your loss, Porter.


    At 9:19:16 AM on 10/23/2005, mrprongs said:
    "and hates the idea of them to begin with"

    Making him lots of money though they did.

    Maybe have Indy go fight the dinos?

    Spileberg said he did TLW to get himself refamilair with directing after taking 4 years off from directing. IOW, he could care less if he did a piss poor job on it.


    At 2:59:29 AM on 10/23/2005, raptor2000 said:
    WHAT?! They closed the Jaws ride? I loved that thing! Granted it was really short and the line was usually really long but still...it was awesome. Oh well...as long as they don't close the Back to the Future ride I won't throw a complete bitch-fit.
    Universal has never been my favorite studio tho.
    However, I would much rather see Indiana Jones 4 before JP4, because I believe it will be alot better than JP4 will be. If they make a really good quality JP4 tho...well it would be a close tie between JP and Indy. I don't think Spielberg will have much to do with JP4 tho because he never does sequels, and hates the idea of them to begin with. I'm not sure how they got him to do TLW, altho I imagine it had something to do with the fact that TLW already had a book written about it.
    He also did produce all three parts of Back to the Furture but that's kind of different because I think that was always intended to be a trilogy and each one is interconnected.


    At 4:03:57 PM on 10/22/2005, JurassicrRex said:
    I'm starting to hate Universal too. First they closed the JAWS ride, and now they are just farting around with JPIV


    At 11:31:52 AM on 10/22/2005, Jaab said:
    Well at least we'll have King Kong to keep us happy for a little while, right?


    At 10:45:37 AM on 10/22/2005, juniorx eternal said:
    if steven spielberg thinks theres any movie more important than jurassic park 4 he is a complete moron!!!!

    he only cares about the idiot new indiana!!!


    At 10:43:24 AM on 10/22/2005, juniorx eternal said:
    im beginning to hate UNIVERSAL!!!!


    At 7:18:57 AM on 10/22/2005, Jaab said:
    WHERE'S THE NEWS?!!


    At 12:56:38 AM on 10/15/2005, raptor2000 said:
    Well you still have a long while to wait for that one.


    At 12:45:39 AM on 10/15/2005, jpbig05 said:
    I can't wait until the 4th movies comes out. I have all three movies and can't wait to add the 4th to my collection.


    At 12:43:30 AM on 10/13/2005, raptor2000 said:
    Somehow I doubt that it will happen next year.


    At 6:07:44 PM on 10/12/2005, Amayakai said:
    I don't know if anyone has checked, but I have been looking at Killermovies.com for info on JP4 and there it says they should be releasing the movie sometime next year.


    At 10:22:39 AM on 10/1/2005, mrprongs said:
    I, too, thought it was supposed to happen. But it was never guaranteed. Something about the way it was phrased sounded definite.

    And something about a new ride/attraction is due, too, no?


    At 9:06:30 AM on 10/1/2005, Jaab said:
    I know, I know. I'm just so eager to hear some news!


    At 1:01:01 AM on 10/1/2005, raptor2000 said:
    I was just about to post that lol.
    And I don't recall them "promising" anything...just them saying it might happen. I could be wrong though.


    At 10:40:37 AM on 9/30/2005, mrprongs said:
    It's still autumn.


    At 6:38:39 AM on 9/30/2005, Jaab said:
    They promised us news this summer/autumn!


    At 6:22:53 PM on 9/29/2005, the_westonator said:
    stupid hoax... dumb script... dumb logo... still wanting real news on the official movie... i don't expect anything too soon...


    At 7:50:43 PM on 9/28/2005, juniorx eternal said:
    sorry.


    At 4:27:43 PM on 9/28/2005, Jaab said:
    I Live in the northern part of Holland, so I don't know diddly-squad. But here's to you: May those who have and still do suffer be strengthened.


    At 12:36:01 PM on 9/28/2005, raptor2000 said:
    Well said, Porter.
    And if it makes you feel any better (though I don't see how it would) I have been in your shoes before, so I know how you feel.


    At 12:32:36 PM on 9/28/2005, PorterM7Z said:
    Y'know, I went to this page because I was looking for some degree of normalcy in a very abnormal situation. Leave it to Jr to laugh about my and countless others' predicament. I don't say things like this very often but- Piss off and die, you little cockdouche sonofabitch.

    That is all.


    At 12:15:10 PM on 9/28/2005, raptor2000 said:
    >>At 8:49:49 AM on 9/28/2005, juniorx eternal said:
    THANK GOD. here in brazil we dont have this...

    but you americans wants to be the best in everything.. thats your prize... (laughs.,,,ahahah)<<

    When the only thing you can beat us in is the amount of people who die in a natural disaster, then that's not saying much.

    By the way, that was completely uncalled for. People lost everything, some people even lost their lives, and all you can do is throw insults. For all I care, you can go fuck yourself, but show some respect for those who have suffered.

    >>We still made and own Jurassic Park. Nyah!<<

    True. A majority of the movies that have gone down in cinema history as classics have been made either in America, by Americans, or both.


    At 10:52:38 AM on 9/28/2005, mrprongs said:
    "but you americans wants to be the best in everything.. thats your prize... (laughs.,,,ahahah)"

    We still made and own Jurassic Park. Nyah!


    At 8:54:40 AM on 9/28/2005, Jaab said:
    That's a terrible thing to say! You even know how many people lost everything because of Katrina?! And how many lost their lives?!! You probably don't, your just some punk that's just being a wise-ass. Think before you say something will you?!


    At 8:49:49 AM on 9/28/2005, juniorx eternal said:
    THANK GOD. here in brazil we dont have this...

    but you americans wants to be the best in everything.. thats your prize... (laughs.,,,ahahah)


    At 12:22:01 AM on 9/28/2005, raptor2000 said:
    Hurricane Fran hit my house when I lived in North Carolina....back in the 90's. Tree's fell on 2 of our cars. I live in Kansas now though, so I'm good from hurricanes. Tornadoes are a different story.


    At 10:57:26 PM on 9/27/2005, PorterM7Z said:
    Rita is a bitch.

    There is a huge effing hole in my house.

    Pics at Yahoo group.


    At 5:28:43 PM on 9/24/2005, juniorx eternal said:
    si! porsupuesto! amigo!

    bienvenido al parque jurasico!


    At 1:51:32 PM on 9/22/2005, jurasico said:
    Deberian de haber comentarios en español.....


    At 6:14:30 PM on 9/16/2005, juniorx eternal said:
    "This whole thing might be frustrating for must of JP fans but at least JP4 is in the spotlight and is being talked of. Talk about real news, fake news, as long as you talk about it... That's the way I see it. So the fact that this bomb has been published on all those sites (IGN filmforce has it to btw) sounds good to me..."

    yep yep I AGREE CAR NBC


    At 11:22:16 AM on 9/16/2005, carl_std said:
    This whole thing might be frustrating for must of JP fans but at least JP4 is in the spotlight and is being talked of. Talk about real news, fake news, as long as you talk about it... That's the way I see it. So the fact that this bomb has been published on all those sites (IGN filmforce has it to btw) sounds good to me...


    At 12:06:49 AM on 9/16/2005, raptor2000 said:
    I agree. It's one thing to play a joke on someone. It's another thing to make something and say its real for no other reason than your own boredom, and to bring attention to yourself.


    At 2:55:27 PM on 9/15/2005, Driveshaft 2.0 said:
    Well the picture and story was taken down from Rope of Silicon, which Dark Horizons used as a source. Good work Carnotaur, you created an elaborate hoax.

    I think it's one thing to report false information unknowingly, but is quite another to create false information and distribute it largely.


    At 8:37:57 AM on 9/15/2005, mrprongs said:
    "im like a butterfly that rises up to hell"

    How do you rise up to hell?


    At 6:21:45 PM on 9/14/2005, Driveshaft 2.0 said:
    Oh Jimmy, how we've missed you so.


    At 2:53:06 PM on 9/14/2005, Jaab said:
    to juniour external:

    yes, you did hurt me... i don't know how, but you did...


    At 2:09:51 PM on 9/14/2005, juniorx eternal said:
    im eternal

    im immortal

    im like a butterfly that rises up to hell and sky searching for JP4 NEWS.


    im junior x at your command!!!


    At 2:08:05 PM on 9/14/2005, juniorx eternal said:
    to job:

    hey job! sorry . i dindt mean to hurt you as rap-tour2006 means always (to me_)


    At 2:06:20 PM on 9/14/2005, juniorx eternal said:
    oh.. rapttor2005 i wish i were as smart as you are! you always have marverous answers to make me feel humiliated in the forum!

    you are my hero!


    At 12:43:50 PM on 9/14/2005, raptor2000 said:
    Yeah right, juniorx. You wish you were smart enough/could write english well enough to come up with something like that. And don't call me dear. You may be gay, but I don't swing that way. By the way, you finally got the number right in my screen name, but you spelled my name wrong. I hope you are messing up every time deliberately, because only a retard would mess up that often on accident.

    >>At 10:52:58 AM on 9/14/2005, Jaab said:
    OH NO!!! We are IN the internet!! How do we get out?!! It's all like in that movie with Keanu Reeves!!!

    And also: You DID that script? Hmmm, must have got some papercuts...<<

    lmao. nice, Jaab. :-P


    At 10:52:58 AM on 9/14/2005, Jaab said:
    OH NO!!! We are IN the internet!! How do we get out?!! It's all like in that movie with Keanu Reeves!!!

    And also: You DID that script? Hmmm, must have got some papercuts...


    At 10:50:46 AM on 9/14/2005, juniorx eternal said:
    pactor2000 WE ARE IN THE INTERNET !!!! NO ONE NEEDS TO APOLOGIZE FOR ANYTHING DEAR"!!!

    besides all that, im assuming I DID THAT SCRIPT!!!

    it was me, cant you fucking understand?????


    At 9:12:20 AM on 9/14/2005, raptor2000 said:
    I hope he is happy, because his hoax has now been posted on dark horizons and now the whole world is reading about it. http://www.darkhorizons.com/news05/050914i.php

    They are all gonna be pissed when they figure out it is a fake, and they are all going to be mad at the person who made it. So good going, carnosaur. I suggest you start writing the appologies (and changing your name).


    At 8:17:47 AM on 9/14/2005, Raptor Dude said:
    Dans been Punk'd.


    At 8:42:29 PM on 9/13/2005, juniorx eternal said:
    PLZ give us jp4 news! (shooting locations, casting news)

    anything god!!!!


    At 11:41:28 AM on 9/13/2005, raptor2000 said:
    I tried to tell you all...
    It was so obvious this wasn't real.
    Oh well.
    Hopefully we will get some real news in soon. But I doubt it.


    At 8:52:21 AM on 9/13/2005, Dino_Dude said:
    I'd like to point you all to Carnotaur3's post in the General Discussion on the Message Board, where he has admitted he was the one who created this whole lame hoax.


    I feel sorry for the ones who actually believed it at some point.


    At 8:16:17 AM on 9/13/2005, Jaab said:
    It's not like it's Steven's little baby anymore, he gave the director's seat to johnston last time, so why not let the fan's have a say?


    At 7:55:19 AM on 9/13/2005, mrprongs said:
    "I know you were being sarcastic....but if Universal cared about our ideas and actually took them into consideration, TLW and JP3 wouldn't have sucked so much."

    Considering how many people who work on the movies come here (or know about us), I'm sure if they cared for our views, they'd contact Dan and ask us to submit them, sans payment, of course (like we'd charge them.)


    At 3:47:45 PM on 9/12/2005, CASTOR TROY said:
    i've never seen an official script bound like that, and all the pages are white - usually they are multi-colored. and if it was real these pages would already be offline due to the fact that they are violoating a few copyright laws.


    At 12:54:05 PM on 9/12/2005, raptor2000 said:
    You're going to assume you did what?
    It is pathetic that you can still not spell (or even get close to spelling) my nor mrprongs names right, even when they are right in front of you.

    >>At 12:11:35 PM on 9/12/2005, Jaab said:
    ugggh...<<

    I agree. lol

    >>"I'm sure Universal is just dying to hear the creative input of your ideas on their multi-billion dollar franchise."

    See, that's been my theory for years. But they seem to ignore me just the same.<<

    I know you were being sarcastic....but if Universal cared about our ideas and actually took them into consideration, TLW and JP3 wouldn't have sucked so much.


    At 12:11:35 PM on 9/12/2005, Jaab said:
    ugggh...


    At 10:30:22 AM on 9/12/2005, juniorx eternal said:
    mr. pororongs,raptor2005 and everyone:::


    im going to assume: ive done that!!! ahahahahhah










    "I only post here when something strikes my fancy"

    I invite you to post more


    At 9:28:19 AM on 9/12/2005, Jaab said:
    mrprongs, i think banning was being sarcastic


    At 8:36:16 AM on 9/12/2005, mrprongs said:
    Nobody thinks it's final. The fact it keeps saying FIX indicates that.

    "I'm sure Universal is just dying to hear the creative input of your ideas on their multi-billion dollar franchise."

    See, that's been my theory for years. But they seem to ignore me just the same.


    At 12:21:57 AM on 9/12/2005, raptor2000 said:
    Dude, it is a freaking fake. Actually read what we have been posting.


    At 3:52:00 PM on 9/11/2005, Banning said:
    I only post here when something strikes my fancy, and it has indeed been a while. But I have to say a few things on this puppy. Keep in mind I'm not bashing anybody, just what has been said.

    Firstly, I don't think this is a final script. By any means. But for anyone to say that what is written on those pages is such a bastard idea of the Jurassic Park mythology, that is just ignorance. We know the script has gone through a few versions already, we know it has been drafted and drafted and reworked. And as far as we know, a final has not arrived. But who is to say those pages weren't just the half-assed ideas of one of the earliest drafts? Summer 2006? That script could have been written years ago. The point is that you don't know.

    And while I think the Dilophosaur idea is a little weak as a logo, who are any of you to say what it should be? I'm sure Universal is just dying to hear the creative input of your ideas on their multi-billion dollar franchise.

    That script could have revolved heavily around the Dilophosaur, it's a smart choice to believe this movie won't take place on an island again. The smaller dinosaurs of the series would have more luck and believability if they were snuck onto the land.

    The only thing you can do is laugh and say "good thing this one isn't happening."

    And yes, this is getting more attention than it deserves. But that is solely because everyone throws it up to being such an outlandish idea.


    At 6:24:19 PM on 9/10/2005, Evilgrinch said:
    Bullshit.

    I'd love to take credit, but sadly it wasn't me, but rather some other asshole.


    At 4:44:44 PM on 9/10/2005, raptor2000 said:
    >>At 1:57:56 PM on 9/10/2005, Jaab said:
    Sad to see this haux stirs things up exactly like its creator would have hoped for. I don't think the IV will be a footprint, it's too obvious. It'll probably won't even have the title JPIV, but that's my guess. I do hope the Rex will be on the logo again, that just ís the JP logo, they shoudn't come up with yet another one.<<

    I agree. It is sad to see people are paying attention to this and some are actually believing it's real. That's just what the person who made it wanted.
    And yes, they never should have remade the JP logo with the spino in it, just like the spino should not have been the main big dino in JP3.

    >>Maybe this isn't the official one and yet to be released. That sounds like more realistic conclusion, don't you think?<<

    No, I don't think that. This is a fake, it was not made by Universal, nor anyone affiliated with Jurassic Park anymore than just being a fan who wanted attention. And right now, we are giving him that attention.


    At 2:42:50 PM on 9/10/2005, Kick ass rex said:
    or what if the logo is just a design. TLW and JP3 had dozens of logos witch weren't published or just in few theaters, right? Maybe this isn't the official one and yet to be released. That sounds like more realistic conclusion, don't you think?


    At 1:57:56 PM on 9/10/2005, Jaab said:
    Sad to see this haux stirs things up exactly like its creator would have hoped for. I don't think the IV will be a footprint, it's too obvious. It'll probably won't even have the title JPIV, but that's my guess. I do hope the Rex will be on the logo again, that just ís the JP logo, they shoudn't come up with yet another one.


    At 1:44:59 PM on 9/10/2005, raptor2000 said:
    It most likely will be a footprint, unless they decide to give JP4 an original name like The Lost World had.
    This is not real, and if any of you think it is.....well, maybe you should take a more long, hard look at it.


    At 11:46:44 AM on 9/10/2005, Kick ass rex said:
    I don't mind the logo so much. And I do think the Dilophosaurus deserves to be the new dino logo. At least more then spiny. I just don't like the paint like written "IV". I thought it would be cooler as a footprint like it was rumoured somewhere.


    At 11:32:35 AM on 9/10/2005, Oviraptor said:
    Dilophosaurus is AWESOME, and deserves to be on the logo, alot more than T-Rex.


    At 11:14:41 AM on 9/10/2005, juniorx eternal said:
    eca!

    I DIDN'T like that idiot logo! i was willing to see something much more creative..

    besides that the DILOPHOSSAUR (is it right?) IS NOT SO SPECIAL TO BE THE MAIN DINO OF ANY MOVIE!!

    my opinion is that this is fake!

    or... THIS IS STEVEN'S POOR IDEA THAT THEY DECIDED TO FORGET.. so there was no BIG BUSINESS on showing to the public..

    whoever did.


    At 9:22:38 AM on 9/10/2005, mrprongs said:
    Actually, Grant would take a back seat. Twice he's been the leader, twice he's been attacked. Maybe letting someone else take point is a good idea.

    Why not a Dilo logo? Did that stupid Spino last time.

    "Plus, if you read in the script, it is Hammond and Nick talking, and the only possibly true news we have gotten so far with that previous shitty script from a while back had no mention of either of them"

    Oh, if only we lived in a world where script writters can change their minds and add characters not previously mentioned before a final script was made.

    Judas Strain? Oh great, Dinos evolving to look like people like in Mimic.


    At 2:14:09 AM on 9/10/2005, ellersaur said:
    Also, if Grant were in this, he wouldn't take a back seat to some new jackass character after being the main character in 2 of the first 3 movies.


    At 2:09:57 AM on 9/10/2005, ellersaur said:
    This is WAY fake.

    'You had me at the money.' That would be the GAYEST line of dialog in film history.


    At 1:46:38 AM on 9/10/2005, Oviraptor said:
    That's not Nick Van Owen, it's Nick Harris.


    At 1:41:48 AM on 9/10/2005, raptor2000 said:
    Bullshit.
    First off, there is no final script, and if there was theres no way anyone could any of it, let alone three pages, and there is no way it could be ready by summer 2006, especially since it isn't even in pre-production yet.
    Secondly, there is no logo made yet, and if there was one, why the hell would the dilophosaurus be on it? (as much as I want to see a dilophosaurus or two in JP4, having them as the main dino would be retarded)
    The logo looks like it was made on Microsoft Paint. Even I could make one that is more convincing than that, and I would make a realistic choice on which dinosaur should be in it.

    Plus, if you read in the script, it is Hammond and Nick talking, and the only possibly true news we have gotten so far with that previous shitty script from a while back had no mention of either of them....the Nick and Hammond being in JP4 was a rumour created by hopeful fans, which leads me to believe that this partial "script" was made by a fan with nothing better to do who thought people would fall for it and make him look famous for getting his hands on it.
    I tell you, all this waiting for JP4 without any real news is making fans dilerious, as this moron proves.


    At 1:10:49 AM on 9/10/2005, Oviraptor said:
    Everyone makes typos.


    At 11:33:35 PM on 9/9/2005, MCHammer said:
    Faaaake. It's a shame when someone trying to persuade people can't even make sure his pages are typo-free.

    "You're name". Come on.


    At 9:13:23 PM on 9/9/2005, MuldoonLives15 said:
    Looks like a dilophosaurus as the dino in the title image.


    At 7:04:10 PM on 9/9/2005, Raptor Dude said:
    Wow! Never seen this before! Oh.. and First.


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