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At 9:52:42 PM on 8/4/2004, raptor2000 said:
No Kelly doing gymnastics...now Grant or Malcom....or Hammond doing gymnastics, I could deal with. :-D
At 6:23:23 AM on 8/4/2004, mrprongs said:
>The rest was all running >and screaming.
Well of course. Oooh. Ahhh. Is how it always starts. But then later, there's running. And screaming.
Except JP/// was Oooh. Then AHHHHHH! Then the running and screaming.
So, more dinos winning. More people doing stuff other than r&s. And no gymnatsic routines. This ain't the Mesozoic Olympics people.
At 3:12:45 AM on 8/4/2004, raptor2000 said:
>>At 10:03:14 PM on 8/3/2004, jpark_08 said:
I heard somewhere that Dodgson dies in the first JP novel.<<
Whoever told you that lied cuz Dodgson is one of the
main characters in the TLW novel. He does die at the end of that book though. I believe the T-rexs feed him to their babies (plural, theres more than one in the book)
>>The last thing I want to see is another dino on dino fight. Unless it was a carnivore vs herbivore fight (i.e. something realistic) I'd rather they just avoid it altogether. <<
Im pretty sure carnivores fought back then over territory or potential prey. In JP3 the people were being hunted by the T-rex and the Spino, which is why they fought. Each one wanted it to themselves. Dinosaurs werent very good at sharing.
>>BTW what's with all the people asking for more gore? JP isn't a monster movie franchise (regardless of what TLW would have one think).<<
I dont recall anyone asking for gore. In fact back in pre-release JP3 days when there were rumours of there being at least one really bloody death in the movie....I believe Cooper getting eaten by the spino and body parts or something falling on the plane...there were alot of people who didnt want that.
If you are referring to we want more people dieing, its not cuz we want more gore, its just cuz we dont want the entire movie to once again be people running and dinos chasing them without the dinos ever getting anywhere. Keep in mind that almost everyone in JP3 who died (minus the people on the boat in the beginning, and Udesky who died not too long after) were killed within the first 5 or so minutes on the island. The rest was all running and screaming.
At 3:10:48 AM on 8/4/2004, PorterM7Z said:
jpark, Dodgson was the main villain in the book The Lost World and I really think that Universal should just adapt as much of this book as they can since the movie was pretty much a complete departure and they had some pretty good material go untouched.
Hmmm.... Alex Proyas....
"People once believed that when someone died, a mosquito took their soul to tha afterlife. But sometimes, just sometimes the mosquito could bring their soul back...."
I, Dinosaur
But right now Universal has kindof a free pass with me (I still don't tolerate utter utter crap, but they do get nontransferrable cool points on April 22nd)
"When you can't run, you crawl. And when you can't do that.... Well, you know the rest."
Thanks, Universal.
At 10:03:14 PM on 8/3/2004, jpark_08 said:
I heard somewhere that Dodgson dies in the first JP novel.
"You know, have them visit the island to see what else was being grown there."
Ya, the info reds (I think I spelt that wrong) should show that the dinosaurs are decreasing in population rapidly, so they send a group of people to the island to find out whats wrong.
At 5:39:16 PM on 8/3/2004, Jurassosaurus said:
*Ugh* make me retch. It's a good thing these are all rumours, or I might have to dismiss JP4 as another Star Wars prequel.
Having some of the marine reptiles would rock, but I imagine it would make for a serious logistical problem (i.e. how do you contain large ocean going creatures). At least the pterosaurs had the aviary.
The last thing I want to see is another dino on dino fight. Unless it was a carnivore vs herbivore fight (i.e. something realistic) I'd rather they just avoid it altogether.
BTW what's with all the people asking for more gore? JP isn't a monster movie franchise (regardless of what TLW would have one think). I'd rather the writers go more in the conspiracy direction that was hinted at in JP3. You know, have them visit the island to see what else was being grown there. While we're at it, bring back Dodgson. He was such a great badguy in the books.
At 2:07:26 PM on 8/3/2004, fordprefect said:
HTML isn't operatable on the comments pages. Never has been.
At 10:52:02 PM on 8/2/2004, raptor2000 said:
>>Now, whether they hit some TLW places in JP/// is unknown.<<
I imagine the building they entered in JP3 was part of the InGen village in TLW...it is pretty big, so it's possible they both were in different buildings of the same village in the 2 movies
At 8:00:30 PM on 8/2/2004, jpark_08 said:
Let me try again
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At 7:53:11 PM on 8/2/2004, jpark_08 said:
lol. Clearly I don't know how to post pictures.
Any help
At 7:51:06 PM on 8/2/2004, jpark_08 said:
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There that solves the Stego Trike problem.
At 5:57:01 AM on 8/1/2004, mrprongs said:
Doesn't matter the size. They were on very limited places, and the dinos staked out territory. TLW had some herbivore places, and the T-rex area. Then they haded through the Raptors to get to the center. Being generous, they hit 1/3 of the island. No reason to even hear a Spino. I bet if the plane had missed the Spino, the T-rex never would have met the Spino.
Now, whether they hit some TLW places in JP/// is unknown.
At 4:24:34 PM on 7/31/2004, raptor2000 said:
Oh and by the way, on this news entry, it says Sam Neill is out and the Goldblum and Attenborough are in, yet on Yahoo! Movies, Neill is the only confirmed actor to be in the movie. JP4, that is.
At 1:03:11 PM on 7/31/2004, raptor2000 said:
Also I just wanted to point this out....everyone says that JP3 took place on a different part of Sorna than TLW did....but Sorna is supposed to be smaller than Nublar, and Nublar wasnt all that big to begin with.
At 1:03:11 PM on 7/31/2004, raptor2000 said:
Also I just wanted to point this out....everyone says that JP3 took place on a different part of Sorna than TLW did....but Sorna is supposed to be smaller than Nublar, and Nublar wasnt all that big to begin with.
At 1:01:27 PM on 7/31/2004, raptor2000 said:
I totally forgot about that. You are right, we do see both Trikes and Stegos in JP3 as they are flying over the island near the beginning of the movie.
But they were from a distance...I meant we havent seen them in an action scene since TLW.
At 3:41:33 AM on 7/31/2004, mrprongs said:
Oh for crying out loud. We're allegedly obessed JP Fans, and no one can tell us exactly where the Stego scenes in JP/// are. With a frame by frame blow of what they do. I'm positive we see the Trikes as Grant happily gives the air tour. I'm sure whatever he named, we see.
At 7:20:42 PM on 7/30/2004, Dac said:
You do that. As for me, I could've sworn I saw some in the river scene
At 5:25:09 PM on 7/30/2004, jpark_08 said:
Really, I'll have to take another look.
At 4:15:37 PM on 7/30/2004, Oviraptor said:
No you could see herds of them when the plane flys over.
At 2:48:16 PM on 7/30/2004, jpark_08 said:
The Triceratops in JP3 were only mentioned when Dr.Grant was naming the dinosaurs for the Kirby's in the plane.
At 10:19:46 AM on 7/30/2004, Oviraptor said:
Opps.
"Um, no we didnt. There werent any Stego's or Trike's in JP3."
Yes there were.
At 10:18:55 AM on 7/30/2004, Oviraptor said:
"Those aren't Spinosaurus, and we saw Triceratops & Stegosaurus in JP3."
Yes there were.
At 10:13:22 AM on 7/30/2004, raptor2000 said:
I'm pretty sure every dinosaur that was on Nublar was also in some quantity on Sorna too. If we can go a whole movie and not see a giant like the spino, we can easily go 2 without seeing a small one like dilophosaurus.
>>Those aren't Spinosaurus, and we saw Triceratops & Stegosaurus in JP3.<<
Um, no we didnt. There werent any Stego's or Trike's in JP3.
At 3:54:42 AM on 7/30/2004, mrprongs said:
>.As for Tim, if people can >survive being struck by >lighting (which is alot >more than 10000 volts), >then he could survive that.
Actually, he didn't touch the actual wires. And stun guns today offer 30000 volts, which people survive through.
I think the Spino was newly hatched when Sorna was abandoned and the dinos released. So, it was never reported officially. Espeically if say, it takes a while to grow the Fin after birth (like antlers do.) So maybe they had it as a maybe dino, and turned out they were wrong. I just don't see the big conspiracy people insist brought it about.
I also think all Dilos were moved to Nublar, so Sorna doesn't have any.
At 3:38:37 AM on 7/30/2004, Oviraptor said:
""So I'm thinking we wont ever see the spino again in a JP movie."
Keep dreaming.<<
Not so much. We never saw dilophosaurus again. We never really saw another Triceratops up close like we did in JP1(except briefly at the hunter camp in TLW). After TLW, we never saw Stegosaurus again. It can happen."
Those aren't Spinosaurus, and we saw Triceratops & Stegosaurus in JP3.
At 9:03:08 PM on 7/29/2004, jpark_08 said:
Agreed...although I still think Timmy should have died.
Come on hes a kid who survived 10000 volts of electricity. Thats like a 90 year old women surviving chicken poxs.
At 8:49:41 PM on 7/29/2004, raptor2000 said:
>>I just can't see a second T-rex Spino fight, because the main viewing audince will see a repeat, and not like it.<<
News flash, every encounter in the past 3 movies involving dinosaurs that have been in previous movies have been repeats. Just altered in someway. As in adding more of them or having less of them. Ex: Raptor chases/attacks in JP, TLW, and JP3; T-rex chases in JP, TLW, and briefly in JP3 when they stumble across the T-rex eating the dead dino.
>>"So I'm thinking we wont ever see the spino again in a JP movie."
Keep dreaming.<<
Not so much. We never saw dilophosaurus again. We never really saw another Triceratops up close like we did in JP1(except briefly at the hunter camp in TLW). After TLW, we never saw Stegosaurus again. It can happen.
>>The kids acted realistic in JP?
How can a girl hack into the extremely protected system of Jurassic Park and put it back online.
And a boy survives electric shock from the high voltage dinosaur fence.
So if there is a kid in JP4, I hope he/she gets ripped apart by raptors.<<
Lex didnt hack into the JP mainframe; it was already up and running. All she had to do was find the right file.
As for Tim, if people can survive being struck by lighting (which is alot more than 10000 volts), then he could survive that.
>>Well, not every Sorna dino was on Nublar. So the chances of a second Spino is small.<<
We dont know that. Keep in mind that in JP1, they never finished the tour, and even with the part of the tour they did get to go on, we only got to see the dilophosaur area, the raptor area, the T-rex area, the Triceratops area, and the herbivore area (with the brachiosaurs and the parasaurs etc.) The raptor and herbivore areas werent even on the tour. So there could have been any number of dinos on Nublar we dont know about.
You are right about the spino tho. From the way they made it sound in JP3, it sounded like more of an experiment than an actual attraction they planned on putting in the park.
At 11:29:15 AM on 7/29/2004, jpark_08 said:
"If thye're any kids, I hope they act realisitcally, like in JP."
The kids acted realistic in JP?
How can a girl hack into the extremely protected system of Jurassic Park and put it back online.
And a boy survives electric shock from the high voltage dinosaur fence.
So if there is a kid in JP4, I hope he/she gets ripped apart by raptors.
At 3:31:08 AM on 7/29/2004, mrprongs said:
Well, not every Sorna dino was on Nublar. So the chances of a second Spino is small. We didn't see Spino in TLW because we were on a diff part of the island. So it didn't just show up. It was always there, just like the Ankylosaurs were. I just can't see a second T-rex Spino fight, because the main viewing audince will see a repeat, and not like it. Only overall plots can be repeated.
Nothing official ha been stated on if JP3 is being ignored. All we know is Spileberg wishes 4 was the third in there series.
If thye're any kids, I hope theya ct realisitcally, like in JP. No gymnatsic super heroes. No kid survivng 8 weeks on an island with giant meat eaters, who just so happens to excell at getting T-rex urine. Which Eric amdits attracts the Spino, who seems to ignore him then.
At 1:00:05 AM on 7/29/2004, Oviraptor said:
"So I'm thinking we wont ever see the spino again in a JP movie."
Keep dreaming.
At 9:25:23 PM on 7/28/2004, raptor2000 said:
Needless to say, spino was a bad idea and I think the folks at Universal know that too. So I'm thinking we wont ever see the spino again in a JP movie, let alone a fight with the T-rex. We'll see though.
I've also heard that in JP4 they are planning to just ignore the fact JP3 ever happened. Which isnt that big of a deal; none of the JP movies really relate back to any events in the previous movies other than mentioning it here or there.
At 11:51:34 AM on 7/28/2004, jpark_08 said:
The spino was just a desperate attempt to make JP3 more interesting, instead of using the t-rex as a main dino for the 3rd time.
I heard that JP4 wouldn't have anything to do with the events that happened in JP3. So if they ever make JP4 I doubt they will bring the spino back.
~prays for the t-rex~
At 11:16:04 AM on 7/28/2004, raptor2000 said:
It is just a movie. It's not that critical of an issue.
But anyway, even without size, spino still has the arms which give it a serious advantage.
I really dont care how they do it, I just want to see the spino dead, tho following the trend of the Jurassic Park movies (going thru the first 2 movies and not seeing a spino - I know there wasnt one on Nublar...that we know of. they never finished the tour ;-) - then all the sudden theres one in JP3. And the fact that other dinosaurs, like dilophosaurus, appear in one movie then are never seen again) they probably will just leave it out of the movie all together and just have the T-rex instead. No questions asked. That happens alot in this series
At 9:29:54 AM on 7/28/2004, jpark_08 said:
Ok... I think Dac is right now. But I still hope they will find a way to get the
t-rex back.
Maybe if dinosaurs are dying on the island and there is not enough herbivores for the carnivores to eat. The carnivores will be forced to eat each other. eg. The
t-rexes know they can't take down a spino by themselves, so they team up on it to get the food they need.
I quess it will all depend on the plot.
At 5:25:03 AM on 7/28/2004, Dac said:
"But still, no one is going to view the T-rex any differently if they attack together. "
Oh, trust me, they WILL
"Supposedly, the Spino is bigger anyway "
Pff, like hell it is. I looked them up in a magazine; the only complete Spino skeleton found thus far had the largest skull of any found, thus implying it was the most developed. And (prior to its destruction in WW2) it was SMALLER than a Tyrannosaur's standard skeleton. Catch my drift?
"so it would be more fair. "
How do you explain fair to non-sentient creatures?
"Think about it: the spino has the advantage of being bigger and having arms it can actually use to fight with."
I explained the bigger thing. But in this point, you're right about the arms
"I seriously doubt anyone would view the Rex any differently or even really care if they attacked in a pair or more."
Unless they were a pair or more, I KNOW people who would think the producers are trying to degrade the Rex's image
"In fact, I think theyd enjoy the already established king of Jurassic Park reclaiming his thrown from the big-finned imposter."
It's 'throne'. Thrown is the past tense of throwing
At 1:28:36 AM on 7/28/2004, raptor2000 said:
Unless there were 2 adults and a young one or 2. Like Sarah said in TLW, we dont know how long the parent Rexs keep their children around...or how big they get before they go out on their own. Probably pretty close to full size.
But still, no one is going to view the T-rex any differently if they attack together. Supposedly, the Spino is bigger anyway (tho in my opinion, if thats a fact then it cant be that much bigger) so it would be more fair. Think about it: the spino has the advantage of being bigger and having arms it can actually use to fight with.
I think it would be ok if they had at least 2 rexes fight the spino, and I seriously doubt anyone would view the Rex any differently or even really care if they attacked in a pair or more.
In fact, I think theyd enjoy the already established king of Jurassic Park reclaiming his thrown from the big-finned imposter. ;-)
At 10:12:17 AM on 7/27/2004, jpark_08 said:
I would have to say that raptor2000 is right. Think about it... In JP1 two raptors attacked a t-rex and lost. But we don't view the raptors as being weak because of that.
Dac is right about the mating thing though. So you wouldn't see three t-rexes together anyways.
At 4:02:43 AM on 7/27/2004, Dac said:
But raptors DID hunt in packs. Rexes were solitary except in the case of a mating couple. And if one Rex gets beaten by a Spino, then one Spino gets beaten by TWO Rexes, people will think Rexes are so weak they have to gang up in order to beat an overexaggerated freak
At 12:49:44 PM on 7/26/2004, raptor2000 said:
People dont think the raptors are weak and they always attack in packs of 2 or more.
It's not that critical of an issue. No one would care if 2 or more rexes attacked. In fact, theyd probably enjoy it. Like jpark_08 said, it would bring back one of the aspects that made JP1 so great.
At 6:39:59 PM on 7/23/2004, Dac said:
Nah, that'd be crap. Then people would think the Rex was weak and if it was only two or one they'd get the shit kicked out of them. No, one Rex kills the Spino. And ONLY one Rex. That's good
At 6:08:59 PM on 7/23/2004, jpark_08 said:
Thats a pretty good idea, to see three t-rex's kill a spino. That would bring back one of the aspects that made JP1 so great. Also, it would be pretty damn kool to watch.
At 5:28:24 PM on 7/23/2004, raptor2000 said:
I thought the T-rex chase in TLW was cool....altho if it could almost catch the Jeep in JP1 then it could have easily caught those people running in TLW. But I agree that it is getting extremely old. About the trikes killing a rex...I dont know about that. I dont want to see another rex die. Maybe they could kill the Spino....alltho I personally want to see a rex or 2 (or 3 or 4) take out the spino. That would be awesome.
At 10:10:11 AM on 7/23/2004, jpark_08 said:
JP4 needs like a group of triceratops taking down a t-rex or something. And your right about the running thing, its getting to old.
The only time i liked it was in TLW when they were being chased by raptors through the fields. :)
At 1:12:35 AM on 7/23/2004, raptor2000 said:
Or a triceratops or stegasaurus actually killing someone would be cool. This prolly sounds a bit satanic but oh well: JP3 didnt have enough deaths in it. I mean there were only 3 onscreen deaths. I guess thats understandable since there were so few ppl to begin with, but like in JP1 and even in TLW, there were lots of them and most of them werent pointless. Keeping the movie good, they definately need more deaths (and less running) in JP4
At 8:21:46 PM on 7/21/2004, Danfield78 said:
hopefully they'll realize that just because a dinosaur doesn't eat meat it can't still kick your ass. I wanna see some guy get head-butted to death by a pachesephalosaur, or maybe whipped by an apatasaur's tail. Plus we demand more dino on dino fights! The t-rex and spino thingy was ok, but it should have been at least sixty-four minutes longer.
At 10:26:25 AM on 7/21/2004, hunter2.0 said:
I remember dino riders...and im only 14.
At 5:16:34 AM on 7/21/2004, mrprongs said:
Do we really want to see Jaws' really great grandfather attacking? A few marine animals sure, but not a movie's worth.
Perhaps some of these gals beached themselves to lay eggs, and got bit then? Or surfaced close to shore?
At 8:35:28 PM on 7/20/2004, mr_willi said:
"Sea World: Jurassic Park" So Hammond planned to open an aquatic exhibit too. I got to admit its an interesting take on the JP concept, and while I don't put much faith in internet rumors, I see this as a more likely possibility for "Spielberg's big idea" than dinosaurs back on the mainland or dinos trained for the military (any 80s children remember Dino Riders?) One question: Since mosquitoes don't swim (not adults anyway), where do you get marine reptile DNA?
At 1:08:09 PM on 7/20/2004, Edgar said:
This aqua issue probably spawned from Sean Archer's ideas. I hate that.
-e
At 1:03:13 PM on 7/20/2004, ellersaur said:
They were marine creatures; they were around when the dinosaurs were; so, to make things easier, let's just call them 'marine dinosaurs'. When I had dinosaur books when I was a kid, they're would invariably be sections on these marine creatures, as well as flying creatures. So, let's just lump them together, aye?!
At 7:38:43 AM on 7/20/2004, Dac said:
There's no such thing as a 'marine dinosaur', all dinosaurs were land animals. NO dinosaur lived underwater. Some went there (in a seemingly Jaws rip-off, Spiney) but none stayed there
At 7:24:57 AM on 7/20/2004, DarthMaulSithLord said:
There are no marine Dinosaurs. This movie should be about the real thing, not a bunch of silly reptiles. If actually focuses on marine reptiles this time, they'd better change the name and call it Aqua Park.
At 6:44:06 AM on 7/20/2004, mrprongs said:
>.Besides, how in the hell are they gonna get Malcom OR Grant back in a confrontation with dinos when they both already have had 2 dino experiences each?>>
Competiton for ultimate dino survivalist? Well, we know there's to be lots of raptors, so, we should probably expect anybody claiming raptors are in it to be right.
At 11:14:15 PM on 7/19/2004, ellersaur said:
Marine dinosaurs kind of suck ass, in my opinion. While I wouldn't mind a scene or two with marine dinosaurs, I think having them as the central creatures would be lame.
And I don't count the Spino as a marine dino - he just sucks on his own.
At 11:07:59 PM on 7/19/2004, raptor2000 said:
How can any of you possibly think ANYTHING? There's no ground to base anything off of, there's no proof of anything. You're creating your opinions way too early.
Plus, all these sound like bullshit. I really hope the Goldblum/Attenborough/no Sam Neill one is wrong tho...I want all 3 back, but I would rather settle for another Neill alone movie than one with just Goldblum again. He was good in JP1 as a kind of secondary character to Neill. I didnt like him in JP2 as the main character.
Besides, how in the hell are they gonna get Malcom OR Grant back in a confrontation with dinos when they both already have had 2 dino experiences each?
At 7:22:52 PM on 7/19/2004, jpark_08 said:
It probably won't be about the spinosaurus that much.
I think raptors and smaller dinos are going to be in it the most. Considering how raptors were compared to birds. Same with the gallimimus.
At 7:11:23 PM on 7/19/2004, Oviraptor said:
You forgot about the Spinosaurus returning.
At 6:01:52 PM on 7/19/2004, jpark_08 said:
I have a terrible feeling that JP4 is going to be about dinos evolving into birds or something that takes place in the sky.
Think about it....Its not going back to the island. And theres no way they will do dinos in the city again.
At 5:55:24 PM on 7/19/2004, myguardian said:
Second...ha ha ha
nothing to say
At 5:40:36 PM on 7/19/2004, fordprefect said:
First...ha ha ha
nothing to say
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