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For JP4 its a great idea ofcourse! In real it was maybe also that stadium by stadium they get feathers so in JP1 there was nothing in JP2 a view new things and JP3 feathers on the head and now in JP4 the hole body feathered.Good idea.
A good comment is maybe that Spiny has got to come back in JP4 and some more new spieces and more variaty in sorts.
And no battles against Hi-tech stuff and tanks.
Regards BigM.
At 1:46:35 PM on 11/2/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
He could hunt very well the whole body is a big weapon. It could run Vision based on movement is the only error in the rex everything else is dead on scientificaly correct.
At 11:48:31 PM on 11/1/2002, Micropachy-rex said:
The rex was a carnivore! I hate it how people always have to knock him off his throne, if the T-rex was a scavenger than all of the other large theropods were scavengers, because all of the arguments that these scientists make to support the rex-scavenger theory apply to all of the large theropods, like being to large to run for example.
At 6:40:44 PM on 11/1/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
There is no evidence t-rex couldn't run I believe it could and there were dromeosaurids that size called deinichus. I wouldn't mind no feathers but I believe it would be a better movie that way. T-rex was not a scavenger its jaws were perfect for grabbing a living animal until its death and some scientists estimate that it could run over 25 mph. Just because Jack says it doesn't mean its true. I still respect him for stoping whatever moron who wanted to give the raptors snake tongues. The movie would have sucked if they did that.
At 6:25:42 PM on 11/1/2002, raptor2000 said:
then write universal about it. if you want dinos displayed as they were then the raptors will be about the size of a small golden retriever, and the T-rex wont be chasing people around, just eating dead and rotting dinosaurs.
At 4:07:46 PM on 11/1/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
Feathers would be much cooler I agree movies don't have to be 100% accurate but I believe it would be cooler for a dinosaur movie to have them displayed as they are.
At 9:38:27 PM on 10/31/2002, raptor2000 said:
also, who gives a shit what the raptors look like. Its been stated that for the movie they were doubled in size to make them scarier, proving that the movies are inacurate, however they are MOVIES so it doesnt matter. Who cares if they are too big or dont have feathers. Just do what the movie was intended for and sit back and enjoy the movie and dont complain about inacuracies
At 9:35:34 PM on 10/31/2002, raptor2000 said:
"At 8:29:49 PM on 10/22/2002, The_Shniz said:
Raptor2000, I'm afraid I must agree with Jimmy and I must also call you an idiot. They have found Raptor remains with imprints of feathers in the rock. You know nothing."
thats where you are wrong, I know alot, you know nothing. I didnt not say Jimmys statement was wrong, i just stated for proof, but you made a stupid after statement so i now label you Jimmy346
At 7:51:41 AM on 10/29/2002, Spino+T-Rex said:
Oh damn....I wished they would use the raptors from JP or TLW where the raptors cared about nothing more than ripping apart humans bit by bit...not like JP3 where they did not kill the people when given the chance though I do think that JP3 raptors are nice as well . Just not as great as raptors from the 2 movies.......
At 9:56:11 PM on 10/28/2002, Krabby Jo said:
Oh, and for those parroting "Gimmie some proof"...
http://www.dinosaur.org/news/news01-04-25bird.html
At 6:24:02 PM on 10/23/2002, pj said:
I dont' know if it's been said, (im too lazy to read everything)
But i think that was from a long time ago. When there was just, oh maybe next time stuff. But not legitimate.
At 4:08:31 PM on 10/23/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
The fossial was posted on this site before look through the archives we know they had feathers. The frog DNA is wering off so feathers could be appearing.
At 3:51:55 PM on 10/23/2002, The_Shniz said:
Not footprints, imprints, near their ribcage there were imprints.
At 3:05:53 PM on 10/23/2002, druhill said:
Why don't we go back to the raptors from the original JP, one solid damned color! That was the scariest. All this blue and striped shit is fucked up. Feathers are fucked up, too. Who cares if there was feathers in footprints, maybe they stepped on an animal with feathers?
At 2:37:01 PM on 10/23/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
He wouldn't say that on cable tv unless he was serious. Like I said the frog DNA illiminated the feathers and a plot like the frog DNA is decreasing by generation to generation and they are becoming more like real dinosaurs would make perfect sense.
At 11:16:31 AM on 10/23/2002, TrikeSerabian said:
I think the issue at hand is whether or not Stan was serious. Personally, I think Stan sounded pretty set on "when we do JP4" and when he puts on the feathers. I'd also love to finally see the raptors with feathers. I thought they should have had feathers for TLW. It's about time they start bringing feathers into the mix.
In addition, if anybody working on JP4 is reading this, BRING BACK T-REX!!!!!! Spino's teeth were hollow for cryin out loud! Have the scene where T-Rex shows who's king!
At 10:03:39 AM on 10/23/2002, Carter said:
I'm all for feathered dino's, but to give feathers to a species seen without them in previous JP films would be pointless and ridiculous. One of the things that pissed me off most about JP/// is that it didn't stay true [continuity wise] to the first two, I can't say I care to see that happen again.
"4) JP3 didn't necessarily rewrite the first two films' history by adding the quills. Remember, they were only on the males in JP3, ever think that TLW's hunting raptors may have all been female? (We know the ones in JP were so that's already covered)"
2 tiger striped males (one part of a pair, the other starved and solitary) and a female (darker, duller, different pattern) were shown in the Village Raptor attack. The female chased Sarah over the roof and killed starved, solitary male.
At 12:53:56 AM on 10/23/2002, DarthRex said:
...by the way does anyone know if Jimmy is okay?
He's acting...hate to say it but...semi-normal.
At 12:42:54 AM on 10/23/2002, DarthRex said:
I think that's a cool idea...making the dinosaurs into "what they're supposed to be"...the evolution(pardon the term for some of you) from bio-engineered monsters to the dinosaurs of reality. And since Horner knows(or possibly doesn't know) what dinosaurs were really like, the Rex is gonna be a slow ugly blob as useful as a piece of crap. No offense to him or anything but it seems to me that he just wants attention.
And lookie here...He's getting it! HA HA
At 11:43:04 PM on 10/22/2002, PorterM7Z said:
1) The raptors in the JP films weren't scaly, if you look at their texture (and all the dinosaurs), their skin appears to be just coarse and bumpy, like an elephant or rhino.
2) Yep, Jimmy's right for a change (man, you're right Shniz: I feel dirty too) when he says raptors did have feathers, paleontologists have found feather follicles or imprints on bones. Can't remember which, my dinosaurs professor talked about it on the first day of class.
3) However I don't wanna see feathered raptors in a JP movie no matter how scientifically accurate it is; it would look silly on celluloid.
4) JP3 didn't necessarily rewrite the first two films' history by adding the quills. Remember, they were only on the males in JP3, ever think that TLW's hunting raptors may have all been female? (We know the ones in JP were so that's already covered)
5) Hats off to Oviraptor. Very good observation. In my very first day of dinosaurs class, I drew a little picture of a penguin threateningly saying, "Back off, man! I'm a DINOSAUR!" Dunno if anybody else noticed he said that, but yep- ALL BIRDS ARE DINOSAURS. Technically speaking anyway.
6) TOO RIGHT, DRIVESHAFT! BLACK AND WHITE STRIPED T-REXES IN JPX: DINOSAURS IN SPAAAAAAAAAACE!!!!!!!!!!
At 8:30:21 PM on 10/22/2002, The_Shniz said:
*IS!
Damn no edit button...
At 8:29:49 PM on 10/22/2002, The_Shniz said:
Raptor2000, I'm afraid I must agree with Jimmy and I must also call you an idiot. They have found Raptor remains with imprints of feathers in the rock. You know nothing.
And unfortunately I just defended Jimmy so the apocalypse if coming... :(
But I'd only like feathered raptors if they at least looked scary.
At 8:12:07 PM on 10/22/2002, raptor2000 said:
proove that dinos evolved from birds as opposed to reptiles.
At 8:09:19 PM on 10/22/2002, Oviraptor said:
Birds (which are dinosaurs) have feathers.
At 8:08:04 PM on 10/22/2002, raptor2000 said:
"We know for a fact they had feathers giving a raptor scales is like giving a goose four eyes. "
Im curious, who is this "we" you keep talking about
At 8:06:23 PM on 10/22/2002, raptor2000 said:
you are funky and fake without feathers, jimmy. in fact, you are funky and fake WITH feathers. How do you know dinos had feathers. Give me proof. Not what Stan Winston said, hes just a special effects artist for movies. I want some firm solid proof that dinosaurs had feathers.
At 7:00:10 PM on 10/22/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
raptor2000 chosing a scaly raptor over a feathered faptor is like picking a elephant eared sauropod over a normal one. It is funky and fake without feathers.
At 6:39:46 PM on 10/22/2002, Oviraptor said:
Dinosaurs with feathers would be accurate.
At 6:39:10 PM on 10/22/2002, Oviraptor said:
Winston has already confirmed that JPIV is in the works, he said the script is in the early stages of being writen, but this was a while back.
At 6:31:30 PM on 10/22/2002, raptor2000 said:
God they are trying to combine Jurassic Park and Alfred Hitchcock's Attack of the Birds. I mean COME ON. The dinos in JP were scary, the ones in TLW were scary, the ones in JP3...not really.
At 6:26:51 PM on 10/22/2002, raptor2000 said:
this is not proof that there will be a JP4, just that he hopes there will be so that he can develope the dinos more
At 5:41:38 PM on 10/22/2002, Aragorn said:
For once, I'd have to agree with Jimmy. I think a feathered raptor would look cool - as long as there's an explanation for it. The raptors being diffrent in the first two films did have an explanation. Two diffrent islands, two diffrent species. JP3 implied they they had quills in the entire series because Grant had a dream about one with quills, and if he was only ever on Nublar, that meant the ones there had quills, which they didn't, so JP3 tries to change the raptors from the very first movie.
At 5:40:23 PM on 10/22/2002, Oviraptor said:
He was joking guys, but it still might happen.
At 3:37:19 PM on 10/22/2002, Micropachy-rex said:
I just hope they have an explaination for why the raptors change (if they change), and they should give them a bigger part, and the raptors should use thier coordinated hunting skills alot more. Like maybe they round everyone up and run through the people to get them separated, than start to pick them off. And if they want to make them more scientifically accurate, they should make them a wee bit smaller, because Velocirators were not 13 feet long.
At 3:21:24 PM on 10/22/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
A feathered raptor would be much cooler. Thats how they were. Heres an explaination on why the raptors are changing. The frog DNA illiminated the natural raptor feathers from Ingeens first generations and as the generations pass the frog DNA is slowly decreasing and will eventually illiminate from there system. That could also be used to bring t-rexs that can see unmoving thing in Jurassic Park 4.
At 3:12:34 PM on 10/22/2002, Micropachy-rex said:
I saw that, it was called When Dinosaurs Roamed America. It would be cool if they left the raptors as they are right now, but it is like a JP tradition to change the look of the raptors. I think the Albertosaurus should make an apperence on JP4, and then it battles a Carnotaurus. Ithink it would be evenly matched.
At 3:03:53 PM on 10/22/2002, Mark said:
hmmm im not sure it will be interesting to see them in the film they may even be pretty cool but i like the reptile look of the raptor makes it look a lot more menacing i rmeember i saw something on discovery channel another walking with dinosaurs type thing and it had feathered raptors in that and i will admit i hated it, even if it was "scientificaly accurate"
At 2:56:49 PM on 10/22/2002, Micropachy-rex said:
I hate how they are always changing the look of the Velociraptors, it makes the series look bad if you are constantly changing what they look like without an explanation to how they got that way.
At 2:50:45 PM on 10/22/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
Feathered raptors would make the movie scientificaly accurate. I would love to see feathered raptors. The only way to see feathered raptors in a movie is in When Dinosaurs Roamed America. I hope Stan is telling the truth. We know for a fact they had feathers giving a raptor scales is like giving a goose four eyes.
At 2:26:56 PM on 10/22/2002, Sinornis said:
"it should be a species we haven't seen in a JP movie yet."
...yeah, like a Velociraptor (wink, wink)
At 1:27:32 PM on 10/22/2002, _jurassiraptor_ said:
If they completely cloaked a raptor in feathers, it wouldn't fit the continuity of the other three films, plus the general movie audience would just laugh.
Rather, if they insist on having a feathered dinosaur, it should be a species we haven't seen in a JP movie yet.
At 1:26:47 PM on 10/22/2002, Sinornis said:
aw, what's wrong guys? I thought you wanted *accurate* dinosaurs?!??
At 12:51:07 PM on 10/22/2002, TrikeAttack said:
feathers?that sucked in jp3 and if they're gonna be covered in it in jp4....
At 11:36:10 AM on 10/22/2002, pteranofan said:
Feathered raptors would be a pretty cool thing to see.
At 11:32:05 AM on 10/22/2002, Driveshaft said:
Maybe the Rex will also get black and white stripes, for dinos in space
At 11:30:10 AM on 10/22/2002, Driveshaft said:
Except when you tar someone, then they're cool
At 10:22:32 AM on 10/22/2002, The_Shniz said:
NOOOOOO!!!!
I hate feathers...
At 10:21:36 AM on 10/22/2002, CeratosPit said:
Damn you, Stan Winston! Why must you be so vague? Yo, I'd just give the raptors more of those sweet quills. Maybe, running down the back, and sticking some on the wrists. That'd look pretty sweet. Hey, who knows, maybe in JP4, Brachiosaurus might have a trunk!
At 9:44:39 AM on 10/22/2002, _jurassiraptor_ said:
Here's the actual quote...
In the last segment of the show, they are discussing feathered dinosaurs, and Horner says that he would have prefered if the velociraptors in JP were fully feathered. Then Stan Winston comes on and says:
"In the third Jurassic Park, we didn't go to feathered dinosaurs just because there didn't seem to be the proper place for it in this particular movie; the character wasn't written. The closest thing we got to it was actually adding quills to the male velociraptors. So when Jurassic Park IV (holds up four fingers) -- when we do the feathered dinosaurs -- we'll be happy to put the feathers on. There is no compromise -- there was never actually a thought."
Then the show shifted and talked about cloning.
At 3:55:12 AM on 10/22/2002, Sinornis said:
i have a tv tuner card inside of my computer, not just software
At 2:57:14 AM on 10/22/2002, underdog738 said:
Howq do you guys get tv stills, is their some kind of computer software happening? What is it?
At 1:25:18 AM on 10/22/2002, ellersaur said:
Universal Duuuudes, just officially announce this sucka! Come on!
At 12:16:23 AM on 10/22/2002, Sinornis said:
i'll try to get a vid capture of it with my tv tuner card...
At 12:04:41 AM on 10/22/2002, Dan said:
Thanks Oviraptor.. if anyone gets a direct quote let me know. :)
-Dan
At 11:50:09 PM on 10/21/2002, Oviraptor said:
It comes on again at 1:00 if anyone missed the show, I'm gonna watch it again, and make sure what Winston said.
At 11:47:15 PM on 10/21/2002, trex15 said:
Jack Horner...He's just so stupid!
At 11:38:40 PM on 10/21/2002, Oviraptor said:
feathered
At 11:38:15 PM on 10/21/2002, Oviraptor said:
"I heard him say "When we do the feather dinosaur in JP IV, it'll have feathers."
I don't remember hearing that other part.
He didn't mean feathers on the Velociraptor though.
At 11:35:17 PM on 10/21/2002, Oviraptor said:
Still a joke though.
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