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It'd be great if both Grant and Malcolm came back. JP3 maintained the fact that there was still some feeling between them, with Grant's little comment on Malcolm while in the truck.
It'd be interesting to watch them play off each other, while being chased by dinos.
At 7:24:50 PM on 10/15/2002, Driveshaft said:
"Bite your own nose Driveshaft
Im sure you gob can ajust around it!"
First of all, I've tried
Second of all, what???
Third of all, I don't think Spielberg would want anyone else but Williams for the score, have you ever seen the two apart on a spielberg film??
At 2:16:59 PM on 10/15/2002, jpdill said:
And JP4 must be a BIG story. www.theforce.net has a story about John Williams. It says William has been asked to do the soundtrack. It must be a good story to have the soundtrack done by the man himself!
At 10:47:36 AM on 10/15/2002, jpdill said:
Bite your own nose Driveshaft
Im sure you gob can ajust around it!
I personally don't really care 'bout the story of JP4. If the cast say it's fab, then it is.
At 10:44:44 PM on 10/14/2002, PorterM7Z said:
DINOSAURS IN SPAAACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At 10:31:01 PM on 10/14/2002, suchoswimmer said:
its dad
At 9:21:59 PM on 10/14/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
There was only one adult rex in the city. Its dad its mom whatever there was only one adult in the city.
At 9:21:05 PM on 10/14/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
Dinos in space is extremly dumb. This is Jurassic Park not Alien.
At 9:01:34 PM on 10/14/2002, Driveshaft said:
I'm up for JPX...Dinosaurs in Space. Bring it on!!
At 8:11:47 PM on 10/14/2002, PorterM7Z said:
Here that folks? I'm the stupidest personhear. I like the fact that I bring up alot of legitimate debateable issues like Jimmy's near-orgasmic glee at the thought of a city movie in which dinosaurs would wreak havoc and destroy an American city eventhough he seems to be extremely sensitive to a certain real life disaster that happened last year. And the whole Nick being evil thing. Nobody questions those, I just get whined at for making a joke.... or am I??? According to Jimmy I'm not. So in that case, would anybody else like to see JPX too? Hehehehe
At 7:38:05 PM on 10/14/2002, Driveshaft said:
"I like the idea of mutant dinos because it'll show us what Ingen did in the past."
LMAO, I'm imagining retarded dinosaurs chasing people. Bite your nose! BITE YOUR NOSE!
At 7:32:57 PM on 10/14/2002, The_Shniz said:
And why do they have a hundred or so dinos in a big city in the first place?
At 7:32:13 PM on 10/14/2002, The_Shniz said:
Did you even see TLW Jimmy?
"One"
At 7:31:43 PM on 10/14/2002, The_Shniz said:
*off
At 7:31:27 PM on 10/14/2002, The_Shniz said:
God Jimmy, you're a dumbass.
If the military took out the dinosaurs it would be ripping of Godzilla.
At 7:18:35 PM on 10/14/2002, Oviraptor said:
"One of my favorite scenes is when mom teaches baby how to hunt."
That's it's Dad.
At 7:17:40 PM on 10/14/2002, Oviraptor said:
TLW had 3 Rex's.
At 6:59:19 PM on 10/14/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
The Lost World had only one t-rex or two if you count the infant. One of my favorite scenes is when mom teaches baby how to hunt. It would be nothing like Godzilla since none of the dinosaurs even come close to Godzillas size. Size Does Matter. A movie with hundreds of dinos on the mainland has never been done in this series. Island films have been used three times. You guys must love listening to broken records.
At 6:26:54 PM on 10/14/2002, The_Shniz said:
"Any island movie would be go to island something goes wrong, people get eaten, Survivors get off by helecoptor. It was fun at first but its getting old."
Any city movie would be dinos go to city, something goes wrong, people get eaten, dinos get transported off or killed. It was fun at first, but we'd just be repeating TLW and Godzilla '98.
At 6:24:18 PM on 10/14/2002, The_Shniz said:
He was being sarcastic about the space thing
At 6:11:03 PM on 10/14/2002, jpdill said:
Also JP4 won't come out befor 2005 because there will be a 4 year gap in between them. I, personally, can't wait 'till 2005 because JP4, Star Wars Episode III and Indiana Jones 4 will all be coming out!
At 6:08:22 PM on 10/14/2002, jpdill said:
Sorry. JP4's story is the original JP3 story.
At 6:07:53 PM on 10/14/2002, jpdill said:
I agree.
On another note: Why would mutated dinos be a bad idea?
Spielburg says it's the original JP3 idea, so it could have been that. But they never finished it and they only kept talking raptors as one scene.
I like the idea of mutant dinos because it'll show us what Ingen did in the past.
At 2:55:44 PM on 10/14/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
Porter you are the stupidest personhear. Dinos in space I am sure that sounds alot more mature then a mainland village or city.(sarcasm) So what if Japanese monster movies used big city. They are all terrible. A Jurassic Park mainland movie would rock. The big city thing in The Lost World shows how awsome a big city Jurassic Park movie can be. Any island movie would be go to island something goes wrong, people get eaten, Survivors get off by helecoptor. It was fun at first but its getting old.
At 1:58:37 AM on 10/14/2002, PorterM7Z said:
We've already seen flying raptors; remember the mall scene in Evolution?
Here are MY ideas for JP4, the fourth Jurassic Park, this, the third sequel to a movie about an island full of dinosaurs: Jimmy, you keep saying another island movie is unoriginal cos there's nothing left to do.... Well how about this:
SURVIVOR: ISLA SORNA!
The ULTIMATE in reality television! It could be about sixteen Americans stranded off the coast of Costa Rica, where they will compete with nature, weather, and each other for immunity. Every three days, one tribe has to go to Tribal Council, where they vote out one of their own. (By voting, we of course mean feeding them to a nest full of baby Rexes.) Starring Jeff Probst with special cameos by Jeff Goldblum, Mr. T, and the good folks at Target.
Or better yet.... Okay the island thing's been done already, but so has the city thing in EVERY JAPANESE MONSTER MOVIE EVER. It's tired. (And why would you wanna see a movie with dinos rampaging through big cities? Wouldn't that rebirth the now extinct disaster genre of Armageddon and ID4, which in turn would serve as a constant reminder of a certain event in a certain big city that you seem to associate with the cancellation of Survival?) So anyway, no city, no island, where else could they go? You guessed it:
JURASSIC PARK X! Dinosaurs In Space!!! That's right; Hammond decides the only way to keep his precious dinosaurs safe is to launch them into space in a large futuristic space ship! Nick Van Owen, playing the VILLAIN once again, convinces a bunch of horny booze-hound high school students to stow away on the ship so they get killed and Nick can (1) 'prove' the space ship idea was dangerous and (2) sell his new documentary called "Dinosaurs And Horny Drunken Teenagers In Space!" Near the end, the ship crashes on a planet very similar to Earth and the survivors decide they can live together in peace and harmony with the dinosaurs and work to build a Utopian society. They could even call it Dinoto- oh wait, that's been taken. At the very end, the remaining horny drunken teens would GO BACK AND NOTICE THAT EVERYTHING NICK VAN OWEN DOES ENDS IN GRUESOME GRUESOME DEATHS!!! So they revolt and feed him to the peaceful noble Triceratops:
TEEN #1: "An herbivore eating a wannabe tree-hugger."
TEEN #2: "Yes, the irony is not lost on me."
There's your first joke, Steven!
I swear it's like printing money.
At 11:50:33 PM on 10/13/2002, Vinsfeld said:
i think the story should have the main characters flying into a city near costa rica, and their helicopter gets attacked by a pteredon or something, it crashes they go into thew city to find all the people missing, but all they find is dinosaurs all over the city and blah blah blah they must escape blah blah, the expendable black guy dies first blah blah they escape the end.
At 7:19:58 PM on 10/13/2002, jpdill said:
There is also no point in talking about the plot because the story may be COMPLETELY different!
At 7:15:25 PM on 10/13/2002, jpdill said:
LOL. I agree. But i wouldn't mind having a virus story, and it not being on an island - maybe a major city.
At 5:08:59 PM on 10/13/2002, druhill said:
Yo! Something like that would be AWESOME!! That is probably the best thing I have ever heard for a JP4 DarthRex!
At 4:46:51 PM on 10/13/2002, DarthRex said:
Maybe they could do something where a virus starts to spread that shows why the Dinosaurs became extinct and it begins to spread to humans so they must kill all the dinosaurs.
At 4:38:14 PM on 10/13/2002, suchoswimmer said:
uuuuhhhh...yeah...flying raptors...right...
At 3:59:12 PM on 10/13/2002, Driveshaft said:
That is the worst idea I've ever heard
At 2:23:26 PM on 10/13/2002, The_Shniz said:
Yeah, from the toy line "Chaos Effect". It was called Velociopterix or something.
Combination of a Raptor and Archaeopterix(SP?)
At 12:25:36 PM on 10/13/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
flying raptors?????????
At 11:59:41 AM on 10/13/2002, The_Shniz said:
No offense, but I would probably walk out of JP4 if that was what it was about.
At 11:52:14 AM on 10/13/2002, jpdill said:
This is what I think Jurassic Park IV should be like:
Tim is beside his grandfather’s bed watching him die. Then Hammond tells him that Ingen is his and that Tim should close it down. But before Tim can have Ingen, he must convince the Cost Rican government that he’s good enough for the job. While Hammond dies, the butler makes an important phone call. Tim then sets off to Costa Rica with a few past Jurassic Park victims.
But when they reach the country, the person in charge of Jurassic Park is missing. And the pilot of the plane Tim was riding on has gone to. So the people at the Costa Rican HQ give Tim a new pilot.
This pilot takes the “gang” on a new course. Tim, using his navigator, believes he is above the big (made up) city of Los Amigos. But he’s not. The pilot has taken them to an unmarked region. He then grabs his parachute and jumps out the plane. Then Tim and co. Crash down onto this big region. They break through a cage (and this cage is massive – it covers the entire region) and land in a jungle.
The next 40 minutes are about how they find dinosaurs are mutating and some have been genetically altered a lot. (The dinosaurs are the same as the ones in The Chaos Island toy series – these toys were ones of mutated dinos who have paired with other animals). The gang also try to escape.
After 40 minutes (of movie) Ingen's rival company, Biosyn, arrive and they think the good people are dead. But they are not. The gang get arrested and Tim and co are locked up. Biosyn came with big (and really big) planes. There are also many army troops with Biosyn.
Many dinos are captured and put in the planes (including flying raptors). But a few dinos stow away on the biggest plane. Then the planes take off.
Tim and co (which are yet to be confirmed) are explained that if Ingen has no owners, the island belongs to the Costa Rican government. Biosyn have done deals with the government and are taking the creatures to an island near Toronto, Canada, where they have built up a new Jurassic Park called Cretaceous Island.
But in the big plane a few stow-away raptors attack the pilots. This causes the plane to crash into the one next to it. The auto-pilot manages to land them safely on the ground. They are also right next to Los Amigos (the made up massive city).
The dinos escape and the story changes as not only does the city get attacked by many mutated dinos, the army get involved.
In the end, all the mutated dinos are killed and the region in which the mutants live in is bombed.
At 1:42:28 AM on 10/13/2002, Driveshaft said:
Edward Norton?? Do a JP series? I love Edward, but I don't know how he would want to pull off a JP. I think he would be very good at it, no doubt, but I don't see how he'd be up to it.
On a different note, what about an Everest setting for JP IV? Yeah probably not but I think a mountain setting would actually be kinda cool.
At 12:50:28 AM on 10/13/2002, DarthRex said:
I'd like to see some actors like Edward Norton or Denzel Washington and a leading lady like Milla Jovovich or Rachel Weitz.
At 12:15:00 AM on 10/13/2002, DarthRex said:
There's not much else to do but mainland or a Site C,
How 'bout something that follows two expiditions on both Sorna and Nublar and keeps switching back and forth.
At 10:30:43 PM on 10/12/2002, suchoswimmer said:
hey jimmy,...no duh!!!!! i know the dino in jp3 is a cerato. i want a carno in jp 4. any idiot thats a real jp fan knows thats a ceratosaurus.
At 8:56:44 PM on 10/12/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
I didn't say the whole movie in the city. I think the first half in mainland forests and compys in homes. Then have a bunch stumble into the city have them terrorize the city and then have them get shot. An entire movie of Costa Rican forsts and villages would be just fine for me. Just I would hate having it take place on an island.
At 8:43:18 PM on 10/12/2002, druhill said:
Ok, here's my idea for any new JP film, it might even make a better JPV than a JPIV...
All the JP films have been in lush colorful jungles, with the exception of TLW, but hey, it was still in a jungle. Now picture this...Instead of having the movie in the United States or anywhere in North America...why not go WEST of the islands???!!! I'm not saying JP in China, but what about in a new setting. Like the heated outback of Australia or surrounding islands, with a more dirt, desert theme too it?? Or, let's go north of the islands to somewhere cold!!!
I sure as hell don't want to see an ENTIRE JP FILM IN A CITY!! I mean, I love TLW city scene, but even that alone, if they added another 5 minutes onto that, I would have most likely fell asleep or walked out, because when you first see it, it is original, it hits you!! It's like whoa!! But it gets really old, really fast...
The best bet is to have JP set in an area that is very original, UNexpected, and is not going to become overused throughout the movie. I want to still see the same environment where the dinosaurs can utilize all their skills of sneaking up on prey, hiding, and all that good stuff, a city just wouldn't sport those conditions very well.
Perhaps, starting the movie off in a modernized city (i.e. - Austrailia's capital city...) and then move away from there into the rough area's where the dinosaurs would have somewhat of an actual similar environment that they could adapt to.
That's just my thought.
-Chris
At 6:23:57 PM on 10/12/2002, The_Shniz said:
Really famous but really good.
At 6:21:29 PM on 10/12/2002, jp-freak said:
Thats true, it would be like sitting through the lost worlds 15 minutes for 2 hours.Jurassic Park should come up with some bigger actors than Sam Niel and shit though.Get someone really famous into a Jurassic Park movie
At 5:09:22 PM on 10/12/2002, The_Shniz said:
I can say the same for your city idea. It would be like sitting through those fifteen minutes of TLW for 2 hours.
And TLW was original yet in a similar setting to JP. And I don't care if they put them on an island or not... as long as it's not a city.
At 4:58:45 PM on 10/12/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
Using three anything to you's was not a typo. It shows how boring having three island movies in a row is.
At 4:57:23 PM on 10/12/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
No they can't the way you are constantly nitpicking every flaw in the Jurassic Park sequals shows that a film requires an original setting to be original. Especially when it is the fourth in a series. There simply is no way to have an original idea on Sorna or Nublar. A thrid island would be even worse. I don't think a third island would make any sense. Plus how will this be any different. Even if they go there it will still be go to island, something goes wrong, people get eaten, the survivors get off on helecoptor. Does the term broken record mean anthing to you, anything to you, anything to you.
At 4:38:09 PM on 10/12/2002, The_Shniz said:
They could probably get an original plot in an unoriginal setting.
At 3:58:08 PM on 10/12/2002, Driveshaft said:
Does anyone else think it may be impossible to keep a plot idea original for JP IV??
At 2:54:50 PM on 10/12/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
If what you say is true I find it perplexing that that script was not used for Jurassic Park 3. I would prefer a big city to a Costa Rican village but hey anything is better then some stupid island jungle.
At 2:14:39 PM on 10/12/2002, Mighty Rex said:
I think JPIV is gonna be a combination of unused JP/TLW novel and book scenes with the unused original JPIII story of Extinction and Evolution or even with Return to the island. Evolution was storyboarded, sheduled and a Costa Rican village began being build at Universal
At 1:49:03 PM on 10/12/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
They were Ceratosaurs not Carnataurs.
At 1:16:41 PM on 10/12/2002, suchoswimmer said:
ok...how bout this...biosyn finds out that ingen made a second park on isla muerta because hammonds lawyers thought it would be a good idea in case nublar failed. but ingen lost so much money they didn't even try to open that island so it has been left alone, with no humans, since 1989. biosyn hires arthur levine to help them collect eggs to make a secret main land zoo. levine says no but cant tell the army or whatever because then they would destroy the island and kill all the dinosaurs which he doesnt want . he calls alan, gets him to come along and before you know it their on the island being eaten by dinosaurs and shot by biosyn, etc. etc. etc, terror insues and the movies over....and carnotaurus is in it!!!!!!!!!!!!
At 11:18:44 AM on 10/12/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
Please no Billy I would kill someone if they put Billy in Jurassic Park 4. I would like anyone to think of an original plot that doesn't involve the mainland. You can't because Isla Sorna has been used twice and Isla Nublar was destroyed. Jurassic Park 4 could start in a Costa Rican Jungle with them attacking villages and hotels and end with a couple stumbling into a big city and getting shot. Just not another Isla Sorna movie please.
At 9:45:43 AM on 10/12/2002, The_Shniz said:
I meant characters like Nick and Roland, possibly Billy. They weren't really main characters but I guess they weren't really minor kind of in between.
At 7:27:36 AM on 10/12/2002, jpdill said:
and the original Jurassic Park is the first EVER one created on land
At 7:22:18 AM on 10/12/2002, jpdill said:
This is Pauls story so it can't really be used. But i do hope it has Mutated Dinos cos' raptors with wings would be SO funny!
At 7:10:48 AM on 10/12/2002, jpdill said:
Ingen started 25 years ago, and they started deep in the forests of Central America. Hammond dies and gives Ingen to Tim. But to claim Ingen he has to take JP victims to the Costa Rican goverment. Then Ingens rival company goes along and crashes them into this secret forest (with cages surrounding it). They have to fight to get out but to their dismay, the rival company take the dinos out of this forest. Thye take them to the original Jurassic Park, to find the raptors have escaped. This cause havok and many people die in the cities.
At 6:41:20 AM on 10/12/2002, underdog738 said:
Jimmy...shut up. Dinosaurs will definattely won't be attacking the mainland, that isn't very inventive is it?
I think its safe to say it IS official, i mean, why else would Neil and Spielber both be talking about "Formulaic and riveting plots" and "Very inventive" if they weren't doing anything.
At 6:37:35 AM on 10/12/2002, underdog738 said:
hey guys. Haven't been on in a while but this is great news to hear. Btw, whoever said that minor characters should make a return i have this one question that i do not expect u to take seriously: Didn't all the minor characters end up as a dino snack?
Oh well,
Roll on fourth JP4
At 12:53:44 AM on 10/12/2002, Carnotaur3 said:
My JP4 script, Dawn of Extinction, has a plot invloving Costa Rica and dinosaurs. BE sure to check it out.
At 11:32:43 PM on 10/11/2002, ellersaur said:
Jimmy, the big-city idea is not original. Almost every B-movie featuring monsters or dinos since the beginning of time has been based in a big city, 'Godzilla' for example. Big city would be new to this franchise, but it isn't an original idea.
I LOVE the idea of the Costa Rican jungles coming into play, with a dinos-vs-village type of thing. I even have a kick ass script I've thought about writing, just for the hell of it.
At 11:12:02 PM on 10/11/2002, The_Shniz said:
Bringing back almost every main character is a horrible and unbelievable idea. So is having it in a city like New York or Washington, or did you think Godzilla 98 was a masterpiece, Jimmy?
At 9:25:15 PM on 10/11/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
I guess Costa Rican village is good. I would prefer a major city like New York or Washington. Just please no jungle I am so fucking sick of the Jungle.
At 9:00:14 PM on 10/11/2002, CeratosPit said:
First off, I think taking place on Costa Rica would be more believeable than San Diego cuz it's a lot closer. Plus, there's lots of jungle there. And rather than taking place in a major city, If igure the Urban action could happen around towns with beautiful hotel resorts that are near forested areas.
I'd sPlit up the team into three groups... Grant, Billy and the Kirbys who just wanna get the hell out of Costa Rica once they realize that there are dinosaurs afoot. Ian, Sarah, Roland and Nick who go investigate the BioSyn compound in the rainforest with the Costa Rican officials. And Tim and Wu who go off to Sorna to destroy dinos capable of getting off the island.
And if they're gonna bring in new characters, at least make them characters who were in the books like Marty Guitterez (sP?) and Thorne (as long as they die!)
At 8:49:50 PM on 10/11/2002, Driveshaft said:
*or
At 8:49:35 PM on 10/11/2002, Driveshaft said:
Jimmy I think you raised a valid point I never thought of before: no women of children have been killed in any of the movies. Isn't that odd??
At 7:58:10 PM on 10/11/2002, pj said:
WOOOo!! JIM's 15!!!!!!
Hey Jim, I'm fourteen. And just cause your a year older than me doesnt' mean I still don't think your name is lame!!!! While you think that scene was cool, (I think most of at least "did") critics hammered it and said it was stupid. It DID take some believability out of it. sure they've become more fantasy movies almost, but that's besides the point. Stuff that's too far fectched (unless it's in a pure fantastical world like Lord of the Rings) turns people off.
At 6:02:28 PM on 10/11/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
I am 15
At 5:46:07 PM on 10/11/2002, pj said:
Let the dumb ideas from children who think that they're good roll in!!
At 5:42:33 PM on 10/11/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
Shinz don't you think going into the a dino infested Jungle has been used three times. While a mainland attack has only been used for 15 minutes at the end of the Lost World and only had one dino. That 15 minutes was awsome seeing the rex in the big city had to be one of coolest experiance of my childhood. Thats the main reason I like the Lost World more then the first so much.
At 5:33:51 PM on 10/11/2002, suchoswimmer said:
didn't hammond die jimmy?
At 5:22:38 PM on 10/11/2002, suchoswimmer said:
k sorry
At 5:22:09 PM on 10/11/2002, The_Shniz said:
Turn the capslock off.
At 5:22:06 PM on 10/11/2002, suchoswimmer said:
SORRY....INGEN...NOT ENGINE....SPELL CHECK ERROR...I KNOW WHAT INGEN IS
At 5:21:35 PM on 10/11/2002, The_Shniz said:
"They could attept a mainland park and something could go wrong."
The idea has already been used.
The Lost World: Jurassic Park anyone?
We're aiming for originality here.
At 5:20:46 PM on 10/11/2002, suchoswimmer said:
BUY THE WAY...TECHNICALLY SUCHOMIMUS WAS ENGINES LIST BECAUSE IN JP3 BILLY IS GUESSING THE DINOS OF THE LIST. HE SAYS BARYONYX AND SUCHOMIMUS MEANING SUCHOMIMUS IS SOME WEHERE OUT THERE ....PLEASE DONT CRITICIZE ME FOR THINKING.
At 5:18:14 PM on 10/11/2002, suchoswimmer said:
???COLOR CHANGING CARNOTAURUS ANYONE??ANYONE??
At 4:48:30 PM on 10/11/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
It could start with Nick Van Owen meeting John Hamond.
"Did you hear about the Spinosaurs that attacked a crew that landed on Isla Sorna a few months ago." Hammond
"So why" Nick
"Ingen never cloned a Spinosaur thats why it is not on our list. We have reason to believe that the dino cloning technology has gotten in the hands of a rival company who plans on building a mainland Park."
They could attept a mainland park and something could go wrong.
At 4:27:26 PM on 10/11/2002, The_Shniz said:
I want more, so far none are good. And a hundred dinos in one city? Super-unbelievability there...
In fact give me a plot summary.
At 4:25:49 PM on 10/11/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
Shinz do you go to Oviraptors house and smoke pot with him. I could think of serveral ideas to get them in a city. Plus if hundreds of dinos were getting in the city it would be very difficult to kill them all. Some would escape especially compys. One idea is make it so that someone other then Ingeen is cloning dinosaurs. Thats just one idea I could give more if you want.
At 4:21:42 PM on 10/11/2002, The_Shniz said:
Geez, these should have edit buttons...
A lot of people hated the city bit in TLW so JP4 would make like no money that way. JP displays how nature isn't tamed, a jungle is wild - a city is not.
At 4:19:29 PM on 10/11/2002, The_Shniz said:
The city bit in TLW was a one-time thing.
At 4:18:58 PM on 10/11/2002, The_Shniz said:
No Jimmy that is a horrible idea, I'm gonna agree with Ovi for once. Yeah, Sorna is getting a little tiring so put them in a new location but not a city! The army would take out the dinos in minutes. Plus how are you gonna get them there that's believable?
At 3:59:56 PM on 10/11/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
Oviraptor what are you smoking. The rex in the city was the best part of The Lost World. A two hour movie full of dinos in the city would rock. It is the only original idea possible. Isla Sorna was used twice and despite what many of you say alot of people are sick of it. You can read reviews. Isla Nublar was destroyed. Dinos in the city would rock. Plus since no women or children die in the series so far I hope Juassic Park 4 breaks that trened.
At 3:35:31 PM on 10/11/2002, The_Shniz said:
Yeah, I agree with Varan though. Bring back the minor characters that you'd never expect to return and could make the return realistic.
At 3:34:24 PM on 10/11/2002, Oviraptor said:
No more Big Cities, exspecially with dinosaurs in them, that's one of the things that ruined TLW.
At 3:24:00 PM on 10/11/2002, Varan101 said:
I personally wish to see Roland Tembo once again. He was an interesting character, but admittedly would probably not work too well in another film, unless they reinvent the character.
Nick Van Owen has a lot of potential to return, however. I always liked the character - he was not a scientist, a mercenary, a hunter, or an expert of anything relating to dinosaurs and animals. It was something new....
At 3:23:21 PM on 10/11/2002, The_Shniz said:
"I kinda have to go with Ovi on this one. New characters (unless they're dino-food) get annoying. I don't see the point of bringing in all new characters. What film series ever did that? Just disregard the good folks you got to know over the last 3 films?
"Hi, I'm Josh Peterson. I'm a balding ham radio operator in my mid-30s who's afraid of dinosaurs."
Do you want this guy in JP4? Seriously?"
Hey I have nothing against returning characters... as long as they die an unexpected death that is so surprising and spectacular and worthy of their name that it makes up for the lame excuse they used to get him there.
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"I want completely new characters but not pansies like the Kirbys and not huge men like the "mercenaries". More like the people in TLW."
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"Hi, I'm Josh Peterson. I'm a balding ham radio operator in my mid-30s who's afraid of dinosaurs."
Exactly what I said I didn't want. Is it so hard to think? If we could have a new group more like Sarah, Billy, Eddie, Nick, Roland, and some guy that starts off brave then turns cowerd and eventually eaten, who aren't total pussies and are believable unlike the "mercinaries". The only way I'd tolerate new characters is if they had a cameo but no island (Ellie - JP3) or die.
But knowing some of you, you'd want them to live and return a fourth time. Pfft, grow up.
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And as for your summaries, Jimmy no dino-mainland it was nice in TLW but it was more of a one-time-only thing. And as for the other guy's: I doubt Biosyn would really care for dinosaurs after the three incidents *cough*badomen*cough* and it's been over 10 years.
At 11:10:46 AM on 10/11/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
Not a bad idea. We need big dinos in big cities.
At 10:43:49 AM on 10/11/2002, CeratosPit said:
And, oh yeah, didn't sPeilberg or Goldblum say this movie wouldn't take place on either island?
Here's my plot idea... certain dinosaurs seem to have been getting off the island (sPiney swims, Pteras fly and compies hop on boats...) so the Costa Rican Gov't holds a hearing for what to do with the island. InGen employees and survivors from outings on the island are all flown over to attend (and who wants to pass up a free trip to Costa Rica?) It becomes decided that armed forces are to be sent to Sorna to destroy any sPecies capable of escaping. After the military is sent, though, do we find out that the dinosaurs winding up on Costa Rica didn't come from Sorna at all, but rather a top secret BioSyn lab operating in the Rainforest...
The dinosaurs got out, blah blah blah, everybody runs for their lives...
At 10:33:16 AM on 10/11/2002, CeratosPit said:
I kinda have to go with Ovi on this one. New characters (unless they're dino-food) get annoying. I don't see the point of bringing in all new characters. What film series ever did that? Just disregard the good folks you got to know over the last 3 films?
"Hi, I'm Josh Peterson. I'm a balding ham radio operator in my mid-30s who's afraid of dinosaurs."
Do you want this guy in JP4? Seriously?
At 9:26:49 AM on 10/11/2002, bigoledork said:
Maybe the new film will explain why they cut out the one second clip of Ellie reaching out of the jeep and grabbing that big leaf when they released JP1 to VHS and DVD. What's that all about?!
At 2:49:16 AM on 10/11/2002, Jabroni said:
i think the question on everyone's mind is... any plans for a dansjp4page.com?
oh, and neill says it's a really original idea for the new story and stuff, but he also said stuff like that about jp3 (well, he said the characters were "more 3D" this time around). and anyway, anyone have any guesses on what it might be?
At 11:16:30 PM on 10/10/2002, suchoswimmer said:
awesome!!!! i hope ian is in this one too. does anyone else out there want the color changing carnotaurus in jp 4 or is he still too disney dinosaur like????
At 9:54:55 PM on 10/10/2002, Chaotician said:
It looks like it's starting to be an exciting time to be a JP fan. :)
At 9:31:16 PM on 10/10/2002, Mr Goodbytes said:
<img src=http://www.jpaftermath.com/images/nz_listener_jp4.gif>
What a great day!
At 8:01:08 PM on 10/10/2002, The_Shniz said:
Well if they use old characters it would be Grant or Malcolm. That would suck even more, it gets tiring the third time. And I doubt you'd even care for them anymore. I'm pretty sure I'd want them to die if they made it to a third. If they lived it would be pretty annoying and unbelievable. I would be greatly disappointed if Malcolm or Grant returned and didn't die.
At 7:55:05 PM on 10/10/2002, Oviraptor said:
New characters suck.
At 7:43:22 PM on 10/10/2002, pj said:
When Niel says he could be in Jp4, he didnt' say that he'd be staring. he just said he'd have "some" involvement. So, he'll be in there for story purposes, but then the story will center around somebody else entirely. NOT MALCOM EITHER!!!!!
For Christ's Sake get over the old charecotors, This movie will lose money if they dont' bring in a totally new cast to star in. It's old now. And Im not saying that cause I want it to make money, im saying it cause that's what i want too.
At 7:33:32 PM on 10/10/2002, The_Shniz said:
I want completely new characters but not pansies like the Kirbys and not huge men like the "mercenaries". More like the people in TLW.
At 7:21:42 PM on 10/10/2002, Driveshaft said:
Uhhhh Jimmy where does it say that this movie will take place on an island? We of course assume it will, but who knows? Maybe we'll see time travelling dinos with Grant in the time machine. Haha yeah I pulled that out my ear
At 6:28:25 PM on 10/10/2002, DarthRex said:
Sorry 'bout that but I had to tell someone and I knew you guys would probably be interested...Specially you Dan.
P.S. Golblum said that he'd like to do another one, he was even willing to do JP3 but they didn't need him. I so hope he's in it.
At 6:00:42 PM on 10/10/2002, DarthRex said:
-TOTALY OFF SUBJECT-
I just thought I'd let everyone know...
Dig may have uncovered biggest T-rex on record
September 16, 1997
Web posted at: 9:20 p.m. EDT (0120 GMT)
HELENA, Montana (AP) -- What may be the largest Tyrannosaurus rex fossil ever found has been unearthed on a Montana cattle ranch, touching off a dispute over who has claim to the site.
University of Notre Dame paleontologist Keith Rigby said identification of the fossil is not yet complete, but if it is not a T-rex it may be a completely new variety of dinosaur -- and the largest meat-eater ever found.
"There is some possibility that it may be new, and T-rex may have to become `T-who?"' Rigby said Tuesday.
Rigby said he found a pubis bone, one of three bones in the pelvis, that measures at least 52 inches, compared with 48 inches in the largest T-Rex fossil ever measured.
However, the femurs, or thigh bones, which paleontologists normally use to estimate the size of dinosaurs, are still unexcavated.
The find is "exciting, but not earth-shattering," said J. Michael Parrish, a dinosaur expert at Southern Illinois University.
He said only a couple of dozen T-rex specimens are known and the largest size keeps changing, but that Rigby is probably right that his would be the biggest T-rex known.
Parrish said other carnivores found recently in South America and Africa are thought to be larger than a T-rex, but comparisons among species are difficult.
Rigby said he was forced to reveal the find before the fossil could be confirmed because of an unauthorized excavation over the weekend, which prompted federal agents to intervene to keep bones from being taken away.
James Rector, a lawyer who has been helping Rigby, said he saw two sons of the former landowner and other relatives using a tractor to dig at the site on Sunday.
Rector said he alerted the FBI and the federal Farm Service Agency, which owns the land. No one was arrested, but the FBI is investigating.
Rector said he asked Steve Walton, a son of former landowner Edmund Walton, what he intended to do with the bones and the man replied: "I'm going to save my farm and feed my children."
T-rex fossils can be extremely valuable. A 50-foot fossil nicknamed Sue, which was found in South Dakota in 1990, is expected to bring more than $1 million when it is auctioned next month at Sotheby's in New York.
Rigby said he began work at the Montana site more than a year ago with permission of people who claimed to own the land, but he later became suspicious. He said he did a title search and found that FSA took ownership of the land several years ago.
Two men who identified themselves to The Associated Press in separate calls as Steve Walton and his cousin, Fred Walton, said Tuesday the group did not take anything from the site and were there merely out of curiosity. Both said ownership of the land is still in dispute and they might be entitled to some money from the dinosaur find.
A similar fight was waged over Sue, one of the most complete T-Rex fossils ever found. It was seized by the government in 1992 from Peter L. Larsen, the fossil dealer who excavated it. The government said the land where Sue was found was under federal jurisdiction and off-limits to Larsen.
Sotheby's is selling the fossil on behalf of the Sioux Indian on whose ranch Sue was found.
At 6:00:05 PM on 10/10/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
Just tell me a original plot they could come up with with Alan in it. Don't get me wrong I like his charactor it is just originality is most important. Thats why I am so against Jurassic Park for taking place on any one of the islands. It is unoriginal.
At 5:45:43 PM on 10/10/2002, Mighty Rex said:
This is the news we needed, because we actually had a very good guess that JPIV is being worked on. I think Alan can be involved like Hammond in TLW but maybe not a personal encounter again, or maybe he will be. Now we need more certainty about the return of Malcolm, which Goldblum told us about that his role is being considered in JPIV. Like in the rest of the news, the story seems to be fantastic, refreshing, better than JPIII (!? :) ) and the best idea since the first film! Well, I'm looking forward to further news!
At 5:16:05 PM on 10/10/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
Still everything says there will be a Jurassic Park 4 except the lack of an official announcement. Still I don't see how they could put Alan in Jurassic Park 4. If when the dinos do attack the mainland it would be a huge cowinsidence if they attack Alan. If it takes place on the island (which would be unoriginal and stupid) how many times can you trick a guy into going to an island before you realize not to go.
At 4:38:31 PM on 10/10/2002, Jerm said:
I think it's safe to say that there definitly IS going to be a Jurassic Park 4 and that it's gonna have an awesome story. I mean, everyone whose heard it thinks it's brilliant!
As to Grant in JP4, I think he should be in it, but not actually get involved with the dinos. He could be like the expert who tells everyone else what to do.
p.s. JURASSIC PARK 4!! That feels so good to say!
At 3:50:23 PM on 10/10/2002, Oviraptor said:
AWESOME! Neill has to return!
At 2:50:42 PM on 10/10/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
Still no offical announcement. The lack of one is starting to worry me.
At 2:38:21 PM on 10/10/2002, pteranofan said:
I hope that they can come up with a credible reason for how Grant(maybe) gets stranded AGAIN! If they can do that, and add a good story and script, I think it will be a great film.
At 1:02:54 PM on 10/10/2002, Malcolm(admin) said:
YAY!!! JP4 news, about time! Now Grant and hopefully Malcolm will both be in this JP.
At 11:21:56 AM on 10/10/2002, yvonne said:
Alright! This is awesome news! And I would really like to read the rest of that article. Any ideas if it's on the web anywhere. Or, Dan, did Clinton email you whole thing maybe?? :)
I've been to the Two Paddocks website dozens of times. It has some funny profiles of the people, including their "Proprietor", Sam Neill.
At 10:53:36 AM on 10/10/2002, Mr Goodbytes said:
"Steven (Spielberg) has spoken with me briefly about the new story they are working on, which is remarkably inventive and intriguing, by the way."
Now THAT is the biggest news! It must be one heck of a story.
At 10:49:33 AM on 10/10/2002, CeratosPit said:
Hooray! And if rumors of Malcolm coming back are true, this just might be th greatest JP movie of al time!
At 10:47:31 AM on 10/10/2002, Mr Goodbytes said:
All I have to say is YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At 9:29:06 AM on 10/10/2002, Aussie Embryo said:
no
you pathetic loser
;)
At 9:21:04 AM on 10/10/2002, SuperJonk said:
YEEHAW!
First!
...
you guys *do* still do that... right?
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