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At 10:43:39 PM on 8/2/2002, underdog738 said:
Jimmy u r a geek. Who the hell goes saying star wars lines all over the net! JP-FREAK back away slowly, dont look it in the eyes and make no sudden movements.
(lol, raptors with lightsabers)
At 4:04:58 PM on 8/2/2002, jp-freak said:
Goldmember: Can I paint his woohoos gold? Its kind of my thing.
Dr.Evil How bout NO u crazy Dutch bastard!
At 1:51:40 AM on 8/2/2002, leatherface said:
i thought episode 1 and 2 kicked ass. And I think George Lucas should direct it since , like he said, "is his baby." and all of u people who said it sucks, like Dan, relax bro, and smoke a little buddha and get fucked up.
At 9:01:25 PM on 7/31/2002, jp-freak said:
can anyone say "loser"?
"that is one big pile of shit!" @ Jimmy
At 5:30:25 PM on 7/31/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
"Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering"
At 11:02:46 PM on 7/30/2002, jp-freak said:
Im just gonna slowly move away from here now.
At 3:44:04 PM on 7/30/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
"Get in there you big fury oaf. I don't care what you smell."
At 2:58:12 PM on 7/28/2002, jp-freak said:
that wuz just stupid
At 6:01:34 PM on 7/25/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
"I don't believe it"
"That is why you fail"
At 8:51:38 PM on 7/23/2002, jp-freak said:
for sum reason i just dont see Lucas directing jp4 unless u want raptors fighting with lightsabers hehehe
At 4:37:04 PM on 7/23/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
I always liked Yoda thats why it was so incredibley awsome to see him fight. One of the many reasons why Attack of the Clones is my favorite movie. It is so unbelieveably great that I saw it three times. No words can describe the how awsome the masterpiece that is Attack of the Clones is. I am surprised more people don't like it as much as should be liked.
At 6:17:54 AM on 7/23/2002, underdog738 said:
When i 1st saw star wars a yr ago (hey im 14) i thought Yoda was a wise old fart with special powers, hoever i learnt my lesson in Star Wars 2 he absolutely kicked butt. It'll teach me never to underestimate an old fart again. I was just thinking a perhaps crazy thought, what if George did a JP4 heheheh. Would it be good, i dunno because i've never seen George's work except for SW, is that all he's ever directed or is there more?
At 7:45:00 PM on 7/22/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
No George Lucas is my favorite directer. I don't agree with you often but when your right your right. Joe Johnson isn't anywhere near as good as George Lucas.
At 6:48:05 PM on 7/22/2002, jp-freak said:
dont try and agree with us.yer just trying to make yerself look good to us by agreeing with us
At 7:16:19 PM on 7/21/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
I agree
At 7:09:14 PM on 7/21/2002, jp-freak said:
same here
At 2:36:42 PM on 7/21/2002, Trev said:
Dan, you ACTUALLY think Johnston is a better director than George Lucas? If Johnston directed the last SW movie, I would litterally shoot myself...
At 10:55:55 AM on 7/21/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
Of course Padme dies. That is what turns Anikan into Vader. I agree seeing Anikan turn to the dark side will be awsome. Plus they have the original Vader playing Vader in Episode 3.
At 1:55:11 AM on 7/17/2002, raptorfreak said:
Johnston is a pretty good mainstream director, but Lucas has finish "HIS BABY"
Whether the film is spectacular or not, that's the way it is. I hope Lucas does realize he needs to make it incredible.
At 8:43:33 PM on 7/16/2002, Driveshaft said:
I think the best thing in Episode III and the thing I've been looking forward to all the years since I heard of the prequels becoming a reality is the fact that we would see Anakin succumb to the dark side. Clearly I think it will be my favorite part in the film, and remarkable to see. It does suck that Padme dies, but I think seeing Anakin turn over to the Dark Side will be fantastic.
At 1:15:58 PM on 7/16/2002, Varan101 said:
It's ironic that people who hate Jurassic Park 3 visit a fan site dedicated to the movie.
LOL, people who boycott a movie are pretty sorry. You need to get out and start caring about the things in life that really matter.
At 3:14:09 AM on 7/16/2002, PorterM7Z said:
-hurls rock-
RRRAAAHH!.....
-crunch,arf!-
Oh, crap; it landed on my dog.... Do I get extra points for accuracy though?
And does anybody have anything to say about my theory that Joe would make a brilliant '40s era serial-style adventure film ala Indiana Jones and The Rocketeer?
Also, Jimmy, your logic for your everybody-who's-not-in- Ep4-will-die-in-Ep3 theory is flawed: Captain Panaka and Ric Olie were not in Ep2, but there was nothing to imply that they were dead. Eh? Eh? Besides I don't wanna see Padme die; it's bad enough we gotta see Ani turn to the dark side. Besides, Leia said she remembered her mother; we don't necessarily need to see her die.
Anyway just some thoughts and an excuse to mention Ric Olie.
-Join the Ric Olie Die-Hard Fan Club! It's a club for the fans of Ric Olie who are die-hard!-
At 1:22:31 AM on 7/15/2002, conor said:
jimmy, you repeat yourself in every post."episode 3 will be the darkest, none of the characters are in ep4, ep2 was amazing, yes jimmy, we heard you the first 40 times.
At 1:02:38 AM on 7/15/2002, darthbane2004 said:
For those of you who don't like Episodes I and II, and think someone else should direct Episode III....you can all go straight to hell. Bastards.
At 12:38:02 AM on 7/15/2002, Driveshaft said:
I have an idea, why don't we also throw rocks and see who can throw them the farthest?
At 9:59:15 PM on 7/14/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
Hey just got back from vacation and seeing Attack of the Clones for the third time. Episode 3 will definutly be the darkest Star Wars movie. Since all charactors in Attack of the Clones that are not in A New Hope die in Episode 3. Attack of the Clones is so far the best Star Wars movie and I hope Episode 3 is even better.
At 7:51:40 PM on 7/14/2002, Icebreaker said:
<font color=steelblue>This would be the WORST thing you could do for a Star Wars movie...but don't worry it isn't going to happen the flanneled one has already stated that he will direct EPISODE III...
There is only ONE person that could bring closure to the Star Wars Saga and that is George Lucas</font>
At 3:20:08 PM on 7/14/2002, ellersaur said:
Joe Johnston is a hack with FX-heavy movies (which is weird, considering how his career got started). Yeah, the script for JP3 was weak, but the man had no flare for directing those action sequences.
No JJ for JP4. Find someone else.
At 10:52:03 AM on 7/14/2002, superdino said:
Your good at filibustering Host, but you still did not give me a hard fact. You did not prove your argument at all, and by calming that you’re an expert while you can’t even prove what you are saying only makes you look like an ass. I and many others have giving articles proving that Johnson had control of the project, while you are only giving out opinions on what you though happened. If you are right about what you are claming to know, then prove it. If not, don’t waste my time with what you pretend to know. Think twice before challenging someone unless you are willing to be challenge yourself.
P.S. I can care less if you are unconvinced. There is a lot more people who are.
At 2:43:44 AM on 7/14/2002, KillerRaptor said:
At 2:26:35 PM on 7/13/2002, superdino said:
"<i>Our views should be lisin to because if Joe Johnson Does do Jurassic Park 4, me and alot of other peole are going to boycott it</i>."
Damn fuckin strait! If Johnston does direct JP4, you, me, and <i>many</i> other JP fans will boycott it.
At 8:57:56 PM on 7/13/2002, The Host said:
The so-called expert is back.
Look, I don't dispute that Spielberg gave Johnston 'total control', within his limits to do so. However, the *studio* retains ultimate creative control, *not* the production company.
A bit of film 101, here: there are often two entities involved in the creation of a film -- the production company, and the studio/distributor. Often, a 'production company' is just a loose collection of artists (producers, directors, sometimes writers and cinematographers and so forth) that tend to make movies together. Other times a production company is a legal entity formed of producers and occasionally director that then commission writers and other artists to work on pictures. When working with low-budget pictures, these small companies will often find sponsors to bank-roll the production of films, and then they shop around for a studio to act as distributor and marketer: in such cases, the production company will generally maintain creative control, and the studio will buy a finished product and then manufacture reels and sell them to theatres and pump money into marketing the picture.
Amblin Entertainment was established by Spielberg, Kathy Kennedy, and Jerry Molen in the early eighties to function as just that sort of production company. It has since grown, and employs by contract many people in Hollywood, and picks up an awful lot of films that, until Spielberg stepped down as the company's president in 1996, Spielberg himself produced or executive produced.
In 1996, as noted, Spielberg stepped down so that he might start a full-fledged studio, Dreamworks SKG, with Jeffrey Katzenberg and David Geffen. He still works with Kennedy and Molen, and so all of his own films (since 1997's Amistad) have been financed and distriubted by Dreamworks (sometimes pairing with another studio, such as Warner Brothers, which helped to finance Spielberg's $100-million-plus AI) and produced by Ablin.
If you're perceptive, you'll notice that I said his films are financed by Dreamworks, not Amblin. That's because a film production company has limited resources, even Amblin. Most medium- to high-budget films are financed by a studio. More often than not with high-budget films, especially franchises like Jurassic Park, the studio itself will initiate production and hand it to a producer or production company regularly dealt with.
In these cases, especially the last, the studio maintains tight control over the film's progress. Often the studio will have considerable creative control throughout the process, although, granted, it probably retained just final-cut approval, as it was dealing with Spielberg (if only in a limited capacity) and Amblin. That said, the studio would still maintain control over the budget, and probably many of the key players (it would have to approve writers and director and stars), and certainly the schedule.
And here's where the argument really comes into play in regards to Jurassi Park III. See, probably the primary reason it was rather poorly executed was probably due to the lack of a script. The lack of a script was due to the film's rushed production. And that was almost certainly due to the studio's demands.
See, Universal probably set the movie's release date well before filming commenced, whether it made that release date public at the time or not. Its marketing arm probably had dates in mind on which to release teasers and trailers. And when the summer before filming was spent wrangling over stars and script, the studio heads were probably more than a little nervous that things might run behind and ruin their carefully-planned summer release slate. And so the studio execs said to Spielber and Johnston and all the rest, 'Filming will commence on such-and-such a date come hell or high water.' And that's when filming started.
And when filming ended, and editing began, the studio probably took an even keener interest in the film's progress. When you sink tens of millions of dollars into something, you want to make sure it's done right. Hence final-cut-approval.
What it comes down to is this: Spielberg did not finance the movie's production. Universal Pictures did. And thus, no matter what he said, Spielberg did *not* have the ability to grant Johnston total creative control. Only the studio did. And the granting of total creative control to a director by a studio is a rare thing, and becomes all the rarer as the budget goes up.
As for what Spielberg probably meant, read what I've written below. Meanwhilst, I set forth my challenge again: if you can show me proof that the STUDIO (Universal, *not* Amblin) granted Johnston total creative control and final-cut approval, then go ahead. Until then I remain unconvinced, and you still don't know what you're talking about.
-H
At 2:26:35 PM on 7/13/2002, superdino said:
Our views should be lisin to because if Joe Johnson Does do Jurassic Park 4, me and alot of other peole are going to boycott it.
At 1:54:36 PM on 7/13/2002, Driveshaft said:
Well said, Paleeoguy.
At 12:43:37 PM on 7/13/2002, IngenRaptor said:
Hey Guess What All You Guys Who LOok Up Info To Try To Prove That Joe HAd Total Control HAve No Life And He Didn't Have Total Control and will Probaly Direct 4 So Few Can Go Boycott The MOvie But When It Turns Out To Be Best JP Movie, I want Be There To LAugh In Your Faces
At 12:02:37 PM on 7/13/2002, paleeoguy said:
Look, I know most of you are very passionate about your views. But the bickering is a bit old. Arguments are good, but bitching isn't.
You Know, I had the pleasure of meeting Johnston and Kennedy this past summer. Myself and others around me deduced that they believed the movie wasn't the greatest either. They're just regular people with jobs that get more publicity.
A lot of things probably didn't go well for them during pre production and production. Its incredibly easy for us to say how bad the movie is, and how it could have been better, how we could have done better, but the honest to goodness truth is that we couldn't. The Jurassic Park theme is so incredibly old that you can only recycle it so many times before it starts to go blah. "Oh, gee, another jungle with dinosaurs! Look, More people running for their lives! Um, yep, so whats new?"
At 4:19:34 AM on 7/13/2002, KillerRaptor said:
Joe Johnston should never be invovled in SW episode 3. Look how he pulled out ideas from the back of a cereal box for JP3.
At 9:20:15 PM on 7/12/2002, jpvengends said:
Well superdino, Judging by the lack of responds by “Mr so-called Expert” I do say that you did shut him up (Waited a few hours for him or you to respond) I just wanted to give another a couple of more article on how Spielberg Gave Johnson Full reign over Jurassic Park 3.
Ain't It Cool News:
I think it might be interesting to let you know what I found out about Jurassic Park 3. I was reading an article in ABC (the most respected newspaper here in Spain) that said more or less everything I had read in you page regarding the JP3 project (you know the story about the dinos in Costa Rica, and the possible titles for the film), when something caught my attention. According to ABC, the screenplay is being written by William Goldman, Craig Rosenberg, Joe Johnston and Spielberg himself!
Also the article has some words form Johnston stating that Spielberg gave him "free power", but that the whole story is based on one of Spielberg ideas. And also, that Spielberg told him not to imitate what he had previously done
This Came from Dark Horizons
1-17
Danish newspaper Politikken recently published an interview with Director Joe Johnston in regards to "October Sky" which opens this month in the Netherlands, and in the interview he revealed some sound bytes on "Jurassic Park 3" which he's set to direct. Johnston says he's determined to have a good story first and foremost saying "Steven Spielberg has given me "carthe blanche". He has said that I shall make my own movie, all though the plot in the movie is based on idea by Steven. He has strongly pointed out that I shouldn't try to copy him". At the time of the interview the project was in 'development phase' so Johnston can't disclose much detail yet though new characters will take the forefront of the action with only two recurring ones at most, and even then they have only supporting parts. He plans to use a lot of FX techniques invented in "Star Wars: Episode I" to bring the film to life, and sounds eager to use "a lot of flying reptiles". The budget is set at $83 million.
If that does not answer your question Host, I don’t know what does. Maybe you should keep your mouth shut before you calm to know it all.
At 9:18:54 PM on 7/12/2002, jpvengends said:
Well superdino, Judging by the lack of responds by “Mr so-called Expert” I do say that you did shut him up (Waited a few hours for him you to respond) I just wanted to give another a couple of more article on how Spielberg Gave Johnson Full reign over Jurassic Park 3.
Ain't It Cool News:
I think it might be interesting to let you know what I found out about Jurassic Park 3. I was reading an article in ABC (the most respected newspaper here in Spain) that said more or less everything I had read in you page regarding the JP3 project (you know the story about the dinos in Costa Rica, and the possible titles for the film), when something caught my attention. According to ABC, the screenplay is being written by William Goldman, Craig Rosenberg, Joe Johnston and Spielberg himself!
Also the article has some words form Johnston stating that Spielberg gave him "free power", but that the whole story is based on one of Spielberg ideas. And also, that Spielberg told him not to imitate what he had previously done
This Came from Dark Horizons
1-17
Danish newspaper Politikken recently published an interview with Director Joe Johnston in regards to "October Sky" which opens this month in the Netherlands, and in the interview he revealed some sound bytes on "Jurassic Park 3" which he's set to direct. Johnston says he's determined to have a good story first and foremost saying "Steven Spielberg has given me "carthe blanche". He has said that I shall make my own movie, all though the plot in the movie is based on idea by Steven. He has strongly pointed out that I shouldn't try to copy him". At the time of the interview the project was in 'development phase' so Johnston can't disclose much detail yet though new characters will take the forefront of the action with only two recurring ones at most, and even then they have only supporting parts. He plans to use a lot of FX techniques invented in "Star Wars: Episode I" to bring the film to life, and sounds eager to use "a lot of flying reptiles". The budget is set at $83 million.
If that does not answer your question Host, I don’t know what does. Maybe you should keep your mouth shut before you calm to know it all.
At 2:53:04 PM on 7/12/2002, superdino said:
Spielberg did give Johnson Total control, and Spielberg is still apart of Amblin. Spielberg did Minority Report with them, and he had total control over that project, as well with A.I. So your whole point of Him not owning the Company is completely unfounded.
Now here is a quote from Kathy Kennedy on how Spielberg gave him control. This came from the official Web Site of Jurassic Park 3:
Long-time Spielberg collaborator Kennedy had an intimate view of the dynamic between Spielberg and Johnston on Jurassic Park III. “Throughout the process Steven has been enormously generous and supportive,’’ she said. “He has empowered Joe to formulate and shape the look of the movie. It very much relates to the first two films, but is definitely Joe’s movie.’’
You’re an expert? Please. Now try to prove me wrong Expert to see if you know what you are talking about. If you can’t then you’re all mouth.
P.S. Give me a real anwser, not what you think happen.
At 1:47:54 PM on 7/12/2002, The Host said:
Two comments:
1) Spielberg saod that he gave Joe total control, yes. That's an example of equivocation: it doesn't mean total control in the same sense. See, Spielberg has a reputation for stepping in and effectively directing many of the films he produces: that's what he did most notoriously with Tobe Hooper's Poltergeist (the two still despise each other because of that), with Joe Dante's Gremlins, and with the American Tale and the first Land Before Time animated features, among others. Spielberg is known as a champion of young filmmakers that he's worked with in other capacities (he launched Dante's career, as well as Robert Zemeckis's and Chris Columbus's, among others), but also for taking over the reigns when he doesn't like what they're doing. So when he says that he allowed Johnston 'total control,' he means that he didn't stick his own nose in the direction the direction was taking, as it were.
2) Spielberg's company produced the film, yes, if by his 'company' you mean Amblin (which actually isn't his anymore, but Kathy Kennedy and Jerry Molen's). But the film was financed and distributed by Universal. With a big-budget property like JP3, and a relatively low-profile director, there's no way the studio would allow Joe total control and final cut approval. That is reserved for relatively low-budget presteige films by quality directors (like Scorcese or Coppola, though they get total control these days only as often as not), and major films by superstar directors (such as Spielberg or George Lucas).
If you can find proof that the STUDIO lent Johnston total control (it would be a combination of what's usually called 'creative control' and 'final cut approval'), then prove me wrong. But I'm sure that the studio didn't. And as this film was financed and distributed by Universal, and NOT Spielberg's Dreamworks SKG, then no matter what he says, The Bearded One did NOT have the power to grant Johnston total creative control in any meaningful way.
Next time, know what you're talking about before you wrangle with an expert. I'm going to making these things some day -- and that day is coming very soon.
-H
At 12:50:25 PM on 7/12/2002, jpvengends said:
Joe has mention in countless Interviews that Spielberg gave him total control over Jurassic Park 3, so he should take the full blame for how the movie came out.
P.S. While The Lost World was no where near as good as the first movie, it’s a masterpiece compared to Jurassic Park 3.
At 12:39:11 PM on 7/12/2002, superdino said:
That’s not true, Joe did have total control. Spielberg gave that to him, and if he had a problem, Spielberg would have giving him the time needed to complete the film. Spielberg’s company produces Jurassic Park 3,and if there were problems that needed to be solved, Universal would have giving Spielberg and Joe the time to do it. Let the blame fall where it should be,Joe destroyed the series.
At 12:22:20 PM on 7/12/2002, The Host said:
Just a correction --
There is no way that Joe Johnston had 'total control' over the picture. Very few directors in Hollywood have that sort of power. (Spielberg's on of 'em.) On a flick like JP3, the executives would have final cut approval -- they tell Joe if they want some scenes cut or some scenes exemplified, based on what they think will bring audiences in, and he has to listen. Moreover, it was almost certainly the executives -- watching the clock and fearing that the film would come in behind schedule and/or overbudget -- that forced the film into production before it was ready.
That said, I don't think Johnston's a great director. I felt JP3 was better than TLW -- but that says very little. I think Johnston would be wrong for Star Wars if only because his films tend to be sunny (even, to an extent, JP3), whereas Ep3 has all the makings of a Greek tragedy sans, one would hope, the deus ex.
Still, that aside, I wouldn't blame Joe entirely for JP3. I think he is a competent director, and I think much (perhaps most) of the blame for JP3's failings lie with the executives breathing down Joe's neck to turn out a movie on time, even without a script.
-The Host
At 12:20:47 PM on 7/12/2002, IngenRaptor said:
Its Universal's Fault For Rushing EveryThing and The ONly Reason Joe Threw Out The Script Is Because David Koepp Came Up With The Rescue Mission Idea And Peter Turned The Idea Into Crap With His Script
At 9:37:03 AM on 7/12/2002, Carter said:
It was entirely Johnston's fault. Buchman was given almost no time at all to come up with a new script and storyline after Johnston threw out the original finished script, a matter of weeks before shooting was due to begin.
At 9:30:04 AM on 7/12/2002, superdino said:
Joe should be blamed, and he is probably more responsible for the way Jurassic Park 3 turn out then the writers. He had total control of the project, and he screwed up. He could have waited for a better script but he chouse to work on the fly, and he did it with out regard to the fans of the series. What was he thinking? Did he think that no one would notice? Did he think by coming to this site and pretending that he cared about the fans of the film that the fans would have notice the flaws? Stop making excuses for what Joe did, because he could have made this a much better film if he was not a lazy and incompetent man who just wanted to skate by other than make a good movie.
At 8:42:19 AM on 7/12/2002, Evilgrinch said:
If you dislike Jp3...then feel free to dislike it, but don't leap on Joe's back for someone to blame.
He was filling the shoes of possibly the greatest living director.
If you don't like JP3- blame the writer Peter Buchman.
-Evilgrinch
At 8:41:05 AM on 7/12/2002, Evilgrinch said:
I would happily watch Jp3 just for John Diehl's death scene.
I love that scene so much. No matter my mood, it always promotes exclamations of the phrase "Fu*k yes!"
-Evilgrinch
At 8:02:19 AM on 7/12/2002, superdino said:
You mean the poll that lets you vote as many times as you like as long as you log off of your computer? Please, Your argument is as weak as the JP3 movie, and Ingenraptor, JP3 basically had nothing to do with Jurassic Park at all. It contradicted everything that was set forth in the first two movies.
P.S. At least The Lost World had a good director and a decent plot, Jurassic Park 3 had none of that.
At 1:37:36 AM on 7/12/2002, pteranofan said:
Joe Johnston directing Episode 3? That'll be the day! While I think it would be interesting to see someone else direct these movies besides Lucas, he would never let anyone else have that job. I was reading an interview recently, on BBC.com I think, on Steven Spielberg. Apparently Steven outright asked Lucas if he could direct one of the Star Wars movies. Lucas shot him down right there and told Steven that the Star Wars movies were HIS 'baby,' and that he wants to finish the series himself. If Steven Spielberg, one of Lucas's best friends can't direct, why would he let some former effects worker that he sent through college direct?
At 7:13:26 PM on 7/11/2002, IngenRaptor said:
Yeah Superdino Read The Poll FuckFace
TLW Was The Same Thing As JP Just With Some Diffrent Dinos
JP3 Atleast Tried To Be Different By NOt HAving Anything To Do With Ingen And Joe did well with It He will probaly Direct JP4
I Don't Want To SpeilBerg Directing It
At 6:47:45 PM on 7/11/2002, Raptor Strike said:
holy shit man. who pissed in your cereal?
At 6:34:57 PM on 7/11/2002, sassaphrass said:
That is BULL SHIT!!! fuck it all the way to hell. What kind of a crazy basterd PAYS FOR JOHNSTON TO FUCIN GO TO FUCKIN SCHOOL WHERE HE FUCKIN LEARNED TO FUCKIN DESTROY JURASSIC PARK!!!!! This is a HORRIBLE IDEA to FUCK UP Star war prolouges, even more than they are. Fuck this. FUCK IT ALL TO HELL!!!
At 6:21:32 PM on 7/11/2002, lickmaster said:
Im sorry for asking but what the hell r u peeps doing?
At 5:39:16 PM on 7/11/2002, Oviraptor said:
Hells yes! - 400 (50%)
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Well, not as much, but yes. - 198 (24%)
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Eh, it's kinda sucky now. - 71 (8%)
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I never liked it! - 129 (16%)
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At 5:34:35 PM on 7/11/2002, Oviraptor said:
Really? have you see the Poll over there superdino?
At 8:03:56 AM on 7/11/2002, superdino said:
Invisible Friends? Ingenraptor, The haters for out match the Lovers of JP3, and if you read the boards once in a while, you would know that. Joe can’t direct a full blow SFX movie, and if you think that Jurassic Park 3 was proof that he could then you should get out more.
At 5:41:33 AM on 7/11/2002, Aussie Embryo said:
I'm sure if Lucas wrote the script with some TALENTED writers it would be a good script, but he insists on doing it all himself! And Joe would do a better job of directing than Lucas because a Star Wars film is very visual and JJ is better at visual effects because of his background in VFX.
Blah blah blah, you get the point.
At 3:13:39 AM on 7/11/2002, PorterM7Z said:
C'mon, guys, it's just a poll. We all know Lucas isn't gonna let anybody else handle his baby, the selfish twit hehe. I dug AOTC but it still isn't up to par with the original trilogy. I like Joe alot, the man shows alot of potential and I'd love to work with him one day. But the old franchise I'd like to see him take a swing at nobody's even mentioned: Go watch Rocketeer (my favorite Joe movie, haven't seen October Sky yet) and imagine what it would be like to see Joe take over either Indiana Jones or a '40s era adventure serial-style movie series. I'd love to see him do that... not necessarily take over Indy, but to create his own.
At 12:53:40 AM on 7/11/2002, Chavez said:
I think it would be right if Lucas directed the last SW film
At 9:28:02 PM on 7/10/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
No I love the movie plain and simple. Seeing hot women is just a small add on to an awsome movie. It also had the coolest effects ever and it involves all the Jedi fighting at once. My favorite part by far is seeing Yoda fight. That is awsome. It also has a much better plot and better acting then The Phantom Menace. I like who it was who gave Sidious his power. Jar Jar he was the last charactor I expected. Attack of the Clones is so good I will probably see it 3 more times before in hits DVD this November.
At 8:51:28 PM on 7/10/2002, Driveshaft said:
Jimmy, if you went to see Episode II to see Portman half naked, there's got to be something wrong with your medula oblongata. While Natalie is beautiful, I don't think that justifies seeing the movie.
Joe was awesome on October Sky, I must admit. That was a very awesome movie. JP/// wasn't bad, but let's face it: not the best. Graphically, sure, storywise, no. Which is all the difference as we all have witnessed in the JP saga AND Star Wars Saga.
At 4:57:59 PM on 7/10/2002, tobycompy2.0 said:
<font color=Brick red>Dude, Jimmy your a retard, Attack of the Clones sucked compared to the original trilogy (except ROTJ, just not as good).
It had bad dialogue, the love story was too blurted out not enough development, and it still didn't have that Star Wars feel to it, Yoda vs. Dooku is still the best lightsaber scene ever :)
Don't get me wrong, I loved AOTC but it just doesn't compare to the original trilogy.</font>
At 3:38:26 PM on 7/10/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
Return of the Jedi is a great movie. There is no such thing as a bad Star Wars movie. Attack of the Clones was amazingly awsome. It is the most kick ass awsome Star Wars film ever made. The others don't even come close. There is nothing wrong with Attack of the Clones. Those who complain about it being a love story are idiots. If it wasn't a love story there would be no Luke and Leia. Plus you get to see Padme in very little clothing.
At 3:19:57 PM on 7/10/2002, Raptor Strike said:
I enjoyed AOTC, but it was nowhere near one of the best action movies in history. ROTJ wasn't pointles at all you dumbass. Joe shouldn't direct Star Wars.
At 3:05:18 PM on 7/10/2002, IngenRaptor said:
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At 3:01:55 PM on 7/9/2002, superdino said:
Yea Right, That’s why there’s a ground swell of people threatening to boycott Jurassic Park 4 if Joe directs it. He did a good job all right, of uniting people against him.
superdino are you and all your Invisble Friends Part of This
Joe Is a Great Director
Evilgrinch is Right October Sky Is a Great Movie and I don't See Whats So Bad About JP3
IF He Directed EP3 I wouldn't Mind
At 2:46:31 PM on 7/10/2002, lickmaster said:
Shut up.
At 2:29:12 PM on 7/10/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
George Lucas will direct it. Joe will just help him a little bit. You oviously haven't checked your sources. After how unbelievably awsome Attack of the Clones was I can't wait for Episode 3. We get to see everybody die. As most of you know all of Attack of the Clones charactors who are not in A New Hope die in Episode 3.
At 1:53:03 PM on 7/10/2002, conor said:
don't let it be so, joe does not have the potential to make a star wars movie, it's way out of his league.
At 12:49:34 PM on 7/10/2002, superdino said:
And if any one wants to see Joe destroy a franchise, See Jurassic Park 3. Joe is a good director, but he’s not in the same league as Lucas. Was Episode one flawed? Yes, But it was not as bad or as badly directed as Jurassic Park 3. Those who think Joe is a good candidate for Star Wars should have their head examined.
At 8:27:54 AM on 7/10/2002, Evilgrinch said:
Anyone who contests Joe's directing talents just watch "October Sky".
As for Episode 3, I think Lucas should direct it, but I would like to see Joe involved in some way.
As Aussie Embryo said, it would help tie episodes 3 & 4 together visually.
-Evilgrinch
PS- The news appeared on Dark Horizons on July 1st.
At 8:20:25 AM on 7/10/2002, Mark said:
why was ROTJ "pointless"?
At 12:29:35 AM on 7/10/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
Are you nots The Phantom Menace was good and Attack of the Clones was one of the most awsome kick ass flicks in history. I changed my mind when I said the rex spino fight was my favorite movie fight. Now I think it is the Yoda fight. How can Return of the Jedi be pointless. I would love to see what would happen if The Empire Strikes Back ended it.
At 11:57:18 PM on 7/9/2002, Rexoraptor said:
Please...Joe could teach Lucas some lessons on how to direct, EP1 sucked ass, EP 2 was okay, and only the first two of the original SW movies were good, ROTJ was pointless. Spielebrg? direct a STAR WARS film? No, its just not Spielberg-y to direct something by Lucas (with the exception of the Raiders).
At 9:22:36 PM on 7/9/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
Of course George will direct it. Ok sorry if you knew that. George said he made The Phantom Menace as sunny and happy as possible because Attack of the Clones was much darker and Episode 3 is not going to be happy at all.
At 7:47:46 PM on 7/9/2002, mr elliesattler said:
Jimmy shut up! We don't need you to inform us on what is going to happen in Episode III. Man, I would rather have Britney Spears direct Episode III than Joe Johnston. JP3 is good and all but if Joe had trouble making that movie he would completely screw up Star Wars. Although Joe did design Boba Fetts sweet costume. Well, I think Goerge should direct it. They just need someone else to write the script!
At 6:15:59 PM on 7/9/2002, Driveshaft said:
Jimmy, no offense but shut up. I think most of us know when Episode I came out on DVD, and my guess is that if people like JP they generally like Star Wars, too, so they probably check out fan sites like TheForce.net and IGN Filmforce just like you.
At 5:02:16 PM on 7/9/2002, Dr. Ian Malcolm said:
NO
At 4:49:22 PM on 7/9/2002, lickmaster said:
eh whatever.
At 3:10:47 PM on 7/9/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
Jurassic Park 3 was awsome I love it and own the DVD. Attack of the Clones is coming to DVD this year. The Phantom Menace came out on DVD two years after it should have so I am glad George Lucus got its act together.
At 3:01:55 PM on 7/9/2002, superdino said:
Yea Right, That’s why there’s a ground swell of people threatening to boycott Jurassic Park 4 if Joe directs it. He did a good job all right, of uniting people against him.
As for Star Wars, there is a big difference between designing and directing.
At 2:46:15 PM on 7/9/2002, _jurassiraptor_ said:
There was nothing wrong with JP3. Joe Johnston is an excellent director and he did a tremendous job.
If George Lucas decides not to direct Ep 3, who better than Joe Johnston? He already has a strong history with Lucas and Star Wars, and an extensive knowledge of the subject matter, so it won't be like handing the reigns over to a total stranger.
At 2:01:16 PM on 7/9/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
The Phantom Menace is a great movie. In my mind it started the saga in the perfect way. Though Attack of the Clones is way way better in every way.
At 1:15:44 PM on 7/9/2002, superdino said:
Dan, Don’t speak about what Lucas needs for Episode 3, because even with his problems behind the camera, He’s still a better Director than Joe Johnson is. Even with Phantom Menace Being what it is, It’s still much better Than Jurassic Park 3.
At 12:09:17 PM on 7/9/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
Episode 3 will be a tragedy. The bad guys win all the Jedi die execept for Obi-Wan and Yoda, Padme will die, Jar Jar will die, the Republic will fall, and Anakan will become a crazy loonitic. Overall not a happy film. In my opinion Attack of the Clones is the best Star Wars ever made so I have high hopes for Episode 3.
At 11:50:43 AM on 7/9/2002, Mark said:
No i dont think that JJ should do Episode 3 even tho i do like JJ work but i think they should leave this one down to lucas and his crew
At 11:24:09 AM on 7/9/2002, Driveshaft said:
Screw that, I think Spielberg should do Episode III. Apparently he wanted to and asked George but George politely refused, because Star Wars is his baby. I think it would kick ass to see Spielberg direct Episode III.
At 7:59:30 AM on 7/9/2002, Dan said:
Lucas needs help, and lots of it. If he would have worked with a taltented screenwriter on Ep 2, we wouldn't have lines like "I don't like sand." JOE JOE JOE!
-Dan
At 6:33:56 AM on 7/9/2002, DarthMaulSithLord said:
NO WAY!!! Look what Joe did to JP.
*eeeeeeek*
At 3:29:32 AM on 7/9/2002, Sinornis said:
i hope this isn't some attempt to kiss ass Dan ;-)
At 2:09:48 AM on 7/9/2002, KillerRaptor said:
"<i>Joe is da man</i>"
Whatever.
At 2:00:19 AM on 7/9/2002, Oviraptor said:
Lucas didn't direct all the Star Wars films.
Irvin Kershner directed TESB.
Richard Marquand directed ROTJ.
At 1:42:32 AM on 7/9/2002, Raptor Strike said:
He should help, but hell no should he direct. Lucas has to direct all of the Star Wars films or they just wouldn't be the same.
At 1:38:19 AM on 7/9/2002, Aussie Embryo said:
Joe should help on Ep3 coz it'd help tie Ep 3 & 4 together better visually.
At 1:37:47 AM on 7/9/2002, Aussie Embryo said:
JJ would do fine with EP 3..... as long as they had George writing the script.. and I think it's wrong of George to ignore JJ's talent after the brilliant work JJ did on ep 4, 5 & 6.
At 1:15:29 AM on 7/9/2002, KillerRaptor said:
Joe Johnston sucks.
At 1:10:51 AM on 7/9/2002, Oviraptor said:
Though him helping wouldn't be bad.
Like as producer.
At 12:47:39 AM on 7/9/2002, Oviraptor said:
Joe is da man, though I'd rather Lucas direct Ep III.
At 12:34:49 AM on 7/9/2002, KillerRaptor said:
Oh my god, this better not be.
At 11:51:30 PM on 7/8/2002, _jurassiraptor_ said:
My guess is yes.
At 10:08:34 PM on 7/8/2002, littlecubcub said:
My guess is no.
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