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please dont EVER do that again
At 10:51:08 PM on 8/6/2002, Phily said:
JP4 a goooooooooooooooooo!!
Finally, man i really wanna seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At 11:03:33 PM on 7/30/2002, jp-freak said:
stfu
At 6:25:18 PM on 7/29/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
no
At 2:57:25 PM on 7/28/2002, jp-freak said:
Jimmy shut up.now that i think about it my idea sucked. jimmy never agree with me again fuck head.
At 11:48:49 AM on 7/27/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
I hated Kelly she ruined The Lost World. Kelly was the thorn in The Lost Worlds side. Be realistic this bugs me about the whole Jurassic Park series how come a big armored man with a gun gets eaten but a helpless kid can get away easy. Can you say stupid I can.
At 1:55:07 AM on 7/27/2002, underdog738 said:
Jimmy, i dont diagree with you often but what u suggested as a city scenario was absolutely horrendous.
Compy's eating children? Did u no Kelly was meant to be attacked by a t-rex but it was cut because it was too scary. Now imagine screening compy's on a big screen, compy's eating them while they're sleeping in bed etc. Now due to JP's popularity many children will go home having nightmares and will never be the same. Critics will tear it apart at such and how could so many dinosaurs get to the mainland at once.
At 9:34:42 PM on 7/26/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
jp-freak I like the way you talk you finaly except that Isla Nublar was destroyed. Jurassic Park 4s titles should be Jurassic Park Escape.
At 5:53:45 PM on 7/26/2002, Tango said:
The embryos would have to have been found within thirty-six hours or the coolent would have run out, therefore resulting in the embryos expiring. It's a safe bet that no one found them buried in the mud within thirty-six hours, especially since everyone was evacuated off of the island.
At 4:21:07 PM on 7/26/2002, jp-freak said:
I got an idea.this is how the mainland idea could come to life!!u know the guy that droped the embreo things on isla nublar?well before the island wuz destroyed someone could have found the embreo thing and bring it to the mainland.he could have bred the embreos into adults in secret and they escape.
At 3:24:12 PM on 7/26/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
I think it is an awsome idea. I am sick of island movies mainland movie would rock. Big city attack or nothing.
At 12:31:42 AM on 7/26/2002, Tango said:
Sorry Jimmy. While I agree with the fact that Nublar was destroyed, I truly do think the dinos attacking major cities would be outrageously lame and entirely inconcieveable.
At 6:00:38 PM on 7/25/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
I disagree the t-rex scene in The Lost World was the coolest. They need all sorts of dinos. Compys killing kids, raptors invading homes, t-rex spinosaur destroying buildings, tricatops and stegasaurs smashing cars. I am sick of Sorna and Nublar was destroyed. Mainland is the only way to go. Costa Rica who cares about that make it Los Anelous or New York.
At 5:30:41 PM on 7/25/2002, Tango said:
Lol, nice come back. What are you, four?
I personally don't want a mainland attack, unless its on Costa Rica. Another big city attack would just be a boring old rehash. Start it out on Isla Sorna, then move it to Costa Rica. Of course we can't have giant dinosaurs in Costa Rica like Tyrannosaurus, Triceratops, Brachiosaurus, etc. Only animals that could sneak on a boat or fly there.
At 4:32:39 PM on 7/25/2002, jp-freak said:
us idea sucks ass
At 11:26:23 PM on 7/24/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
Most people agree with me on the Nublar issue. I don't want it to take place on Sorna either I want a mainland attack film. Since Sorna was used too much and Nublar was destroyed according to everything a mainland attack film is the only original idea for Jurassic Park 4.
At 5:46:49 PM on 7/24/2002, Tango said:
Jimmy's points happen to eb right. Nublar is no more. While the words "Nublar was destroyed" do not come up in either JP sequel, all dialogue referring to Nublar implies that it was in fact dismantled, and therefore has no dinosaurs living on it.
At 4:23:32 PM on 7/24/2002, jp-freak said:
donkey*
At 4:23:13 PM on 7/24/2002, jp-freak said:
i have already won.too bad so sad Jimmy u cock ramming donket dick.nothing wuz said about isla nublar u just dont want it to take place on nublar because u dont like jp1 as much as the others and jp1 took place on nublar.u just cant addmit your wrong and everyone else on this site except u is right
At 1:17:38 PM on 7/24/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
You just can't admit your wrong.
At 8:49:53 PM on 7/23/2002, jp-freak said:
im not even going to dignify that lame ass comment with a proper response
At 7:46:22 PM on 7/22/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
Yes but the line "figure what to do with that SECOND ISLAND" is in the movies.
At 6:46:47 PM on 7/22/2002, jp-freak said:
The name says it all.CUT scene.it wuz CUT meaning it wuz not in the movie meaning it didn't happen u DUMB FUCK!!!
At 8:04:04 PM on 7/21/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
What about the cut scene, and my does the guy say "When they decide what to do with that second island." If Isla Nublar wasn't destroyed he would have said. "When they figure what to do with both islands." I think that argues my point right there. The movies say it to right there.
At 7:08:13 PM on 7/21/2002, jp-freak said:
How many times do we have to get this through your head!!books r different than movies u dumb fuck!!
At 1:12:50 PM on 7/21/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
I think Jurassic Park 4 should take place only on the mainland with dinos attacking the city. Any other plot would be retarded. Nublar was destroyed so I see no other original plot.
At 12:19:09 AM on 7/21/2002, raptor2000 said:
we hope so
At 9:38:07 PM on 7/18/2002, jp-freak said:
Is jimmy 345 dead?
At 1:06:32 PM on 7/18/2002, Neelis said:
Some people around noticed from LOTR that Boromir get’s killed in the first movie, while he is killed in the second book. The Hobbits Frodo and Sam “escape” the Fellowship and set of for Mordor. This happens in the second book to.
Now, the choice to do this has been explained in interviews with the filmmakers. To round the first movie in a better way they used the beginning of the second book, so that you would not end up in action when you would go and see the second movie. It’s really disturbing to see Boromir get killed in the second movie, while the movie is playing for, well, about two or three minutes. Now they can have some explaining about it, and have a relaxed start.
Second thing: if Crichton hadn’t made up Isla Sorna as the breeding island for the dinosaurs it would have never existed, and they would have gone back to Isla Nublar in the second film, which, book or no book, was already planned back in 1993 when JP became a succes.
But Crichton, realizing that the small laboratorie as described in his book and as shown in the movie could not house the facility’s for recreating dinosaurs and keeping them till they where big enough, designed Isla Sorna, a place where researchers could work on the dream of John Hammond. Like Hammond sais in TLW, Isla Nublar was only a showcase for the tourists. The real work happened on Sorna, and gives us the most variation in dinosaurs. I can imagine that in reality the owners would choose witch animals they want to show in a zoo. Other creations could be kept behind, till the time was there to display them.
And I don’t think Hammond and team wouldn’t have took the risk of tourists sneak in the laboratories and find out what they do there.
Now, the reason they didn’t went to Isla Nublar was that there was nothing left to explore. Grant and the kids run over the island, see almost all the animals there and escape. You cannot keep showing animals popping up everywhere in a place that was once a zoo. It would be non-realistic. (Please don’t start about all those maps wich show us different area’s with a dozen dinosaurs. You don’t see them in the movie, so they aren’t there. As an example, check the wall you see clearly in the visitors center, you will see only drawings of the animals shown in the movie such as velociraptor, gallimimus and parasaurolophus.)
But even on Sorna there are too many predators, due to the land they have to live on and hunt. In reality (it ís a movie, I know, but still I think they did a bad job with it) all dinosaurs should had have being extinct by now. There would not have been enough food for all of them.
With three movies in line now, the fourth should be the closer, although Universal has the right’s for a total of six movies. (So part 4, 5 and 6 can still be made by them). I think a prequel like what they did with Star Wars would be good. Show us the creation of the dinosaurs, the building of the park on Nublar, the problems, and, at the end of the movie we go back to see Nublar ánd Sorna both get destroyed. They could spread this out over the three stories, but otherwise I don’t think it would be realistic anymore. What storie is there to tell now we saw both islands?
(And about the cutted scénes: that was cut for the pacing of the film, not because they didn’t want to have Nublar destroyed. If that really was their plan, none of us would ever have seen that boardroom scéne.)
At 12:04:03 AM on 7/18/2002, underdog738 said:
Dinosaurs on the moon...hehehe. Yeh I think that JP4 should be followed up with a script before anything begins. Casting, shooting. nothing! During production the writers kept changing the script, and when it came to the ending they chose the worst one.
At 12:00:38 AM on 7/18/2002, underdog738 said:
mmmh coder was right for once
At 11:17:56 AM on 7/17/2002, bigoledork said:
Remember "Los Cinco Muertes"? Maybe the rest of the islands in the chain have had dinosaurs on them as far back as TLW, because they called them the "five deaths".
It's really crazy how the original JP book was all about how the velociraptors and compies were sneaking onto the boats and appearing on the mainland, but the movies never took that and ran with it. I mean, that was really the whole premise behind a possible sequel for the book. Maybe the producers didn't think Americans would care about dinosaurs in some Latin American country -- everybody running in terror and constantly talking in Spanish. I don't know.
For those of you who can't agree whether you want another island flick or a mainland romp, how about "Dinosaurs in Space!" Maybe a new park on Mars? I know, I'm just being sarcastic.
At 1:51:08 AM on 7/17/2002, raptorfreak said:
What the hell's going on in here? Arguing over Grammar?
Let's get back to the subject JP4. Should the plot be well-grounded before the film's official announcement?
At 9:08:27 PM on 7/16/2002, Raptor Strike said:
I'm fed up with all of the fucking homo's that go to this website. I'm gone.
At 9:07:44 PM on 7/16/2002, Raptor Strike said:
Oh fuck you. I made a typo. I'll be like you now... I believe that 'I' is capitalized.
At 6:42:59 PM on 7/16/2002, MCHammer said:
Can't we all just get along?
At 6:42:16 PM on 7/16/2002, joey_trib said:
lol
At 6:04:12 PM on 7/16/2002, WM_PAINT said:
uiteraard een kniesoor die daarop let!
At 6:01:54 PM on 7/16/2002, WM_PAINT said:
i believe "gra<i>m</i>atically incorrect" is grammatically incorrect; it's "gra<i>mm</i>atically incorrect".
At 5:35:49 PM on 7/16/2002, Raptor Strike said:
Anyway...back to talking about JP.
At 5:33:28 PM on 7/16/2002, Raptor Strike said:
WHATEVER!!! I DON'T CARE ANYMORE. FINE, STUPIDER IS A COLLOQUIALISM, I REALLY DON'T CARE ANYMORE. I mean whoopdeedo, so it's "gramatically incorrect" I really don't give a shit anymore. It says in the dictionary that a colloquial is of ordinary or familiar conversation, informal if you will. And since I really don't think tnat I need to have formal speech in this place, I see no reason that stupider can't be used.
At 2:44:47 PM on 7/16/2002, jmock said:
P.S.
but of course it would be better if they consentrate on the plot a lot more this time
At 2:43:48 PM on 7/16/2002, jmock said:
We don't even know if JP4 will happen, so I just want to hear its a go. Forget about plot.
At 1:25:19 PM on 7/16/2002, Varan101 said:
Anyhow, back to the news at hand.
Jurassic Park 3 was announced before they had a script or even the faintest idea of what the story was to be based upon.
However, this sounds like a complete turnaround, as they are surmising a plot BEFORE they start producing the movie. That, to me, is a lot more promising. JP3 was a fiasco in terms of production. Joe Johnston did an admirable job given what he had.
At 7:58:44 AM on 7/16/2002, The Host said:
'Stupider' is not a word. It's a colloquialism. I have the Oxford English Dictionary (OED), the standard resource on the English language, at my side. And no stupider.
Presumably the Oxford Dictionary of Common English is designed such that it incorporates colloquialisms such as 'stupider.' But the fact remains, it is gramatically incorrect.
If you wish, look up 'colloquialism' in your dictionary. You'll see what I mean.
-H
At 4:03:35 AM on 7/16/2002, underdog738 said:
Hey hold on stupider could be a word. I'm Australian and we dont have any 'stupider'and i no that coder is australian as well so maybe in the American dictionary it exists.
At 3:58:13 AM on 7/16/2002, coder78 said:
If you had of read ALL of the chat messages you would have seen that what i meant is if something is unexplained and has reasonable evidence to support it then it should go by the book. And as for nthe idiot who thinks stupider is a word, dwelleth WAS a word but is no longer same as stupider. Your dictionary is probably out of date or sumthin.
At 6:22:10 PM on 7/15/2002, jp-freak said:
by the way i used to be lickmaster but i changed my name because it wuz stupid
At 6:16:57 PM on 7/15/2002, jp-freak said:
coder, ur such a jimmy do u know that?by the way i saw "Reign Of Fire" and it sucked royal dick!!anyway there is a difference between books and movies!!movies do not have to be exactly like the book.i think that was put through yer heads when u read "The Lost World" and then saw the movie.i didn;t think anyone wuz as stupid as Jimmy
At 2:21:19 PM on 7/15/2002, Raptor Strike said:
There you go. Proof that it is a word. So now there's nothing more to argue about. Case Closed:)
At 2:18:58 PM on 7/15/2002, Raptor Strike said:
stupid: /'stju:pid/ adj. (stupider, stupidest) 1. unintelligent, foolish (a stupid fellow). 2. typical of stupid persons (stupid mistake). 3. uninteresting, boring. 4. in a stupor.
Source: The Oxford Dictionary of Current English
At 2:14:12 PM on 7/15/2002, Raptor Strike said:
I did look it up in the dictionary you fucking whore. They don't define it but they put it in brackets besides stupid. I even put the example moron. Maybe you have a poor dictionary.
At 3:32:57 AM on 7/15/2002, coder78 said:
underdog is right.
At 3:31:55 AM on 7/15/2002, coder78 said:
underdog is right
At 3:31:16 AM on 7/15/2002, coder78 said:
OMG, look it up in a dictionary. THere's dumb, dumber, stupid....but not stupider. Learn some basic english.
At 1:18:29 AM on 7/15/2002, conor said:
go eat shit jimmy
At 9:53:45 PM on 7/14/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
Isla Nublar is destroyed why is anyone even debating it.
At 1:18:38 AM on 7/14/2002, Raptor Strike said:
Um actually underdog, stupider is a word. Now who's stupid? Wait I know!!! It's you. Moron.
stupid: /'stuju:pid/ adj. (stupider, stupidest)
source: Oxford Dictionary of Current English
At 11:29:05 PM on 7/13/2002, coder78 said:
hehe
At 11:26:54 PM on 7/13/2002, Oviraptor said:
Yeah but that's just one continent, S. America & N. America are 2 different ones.
At 11:23:18 PM on 7/13/2002, coder78 said:
In Australia, there's a Western Australia, Northern Territory and Southern Australia. They just call it Australia so i thought you guys do to.
At 11:21:27 PM on 7/13/2002, coder78 said:
ok
At 11:18:29 PM on 7/13/2002, Oviraptor said:
Cause there's a South America and a North America.
At 11:16:46 PM on 7/13/2002, coder78 said:
Hey, why do u guys say United States instead of America? or vice versa.
At 11:15:37 PM on 7/13/2002, coder78 said:
It'd be hard to transport all the dinosaurs somewhere else. It takes over 1000 volts to shock a t-rex so imagine how much electricty would be needed to house two t-rexes and all the others. Alot, so just bomb the island. If they did bomb it.
At 11:09:33 PM on 7/13/2002, Oviraptor said:
Why would the Government destroy it if they did know? Why don't they take the dinosaurs?
At 11:06:53 PM on 7/13/2002, Oviraptor said:
They may know about the island but I doubt they know about Jurassic Park.
I'm in the United States.
At 11:03:24 PM on 7/13/2002, underdog738 said:
I was thinking...it would be bad if they attacked the main land because what would they have to attack. Costa Rica? If they set it up so it was a rampage in New York or Australia. Imagine Italy being attacked by a Spino, hehe.
At 11:02:04 PM on 7/13/2002, underdog738 said:
At 11:00:42 PM on 7/13/2002, coder78 said:
I didn't mean that in a hostile way
At 10:59:55 PM on 7/13/2002, coder78 said:
Oviraptor where are you in the world, America?
At 10:58:19 PM on 7/13/2002, coder78 said:
The Government would want some involvment, and they'd no about it. Its in their territory so of course they'd no about it.
At 10:54:20 PM on 7/13/2002, Oviraptor said:
Why would inGen want the Government to know what went on there?
At 10:48:30 PM on 7/13/2002, Oviraptor said:
Who says the Government had anything to do with it, even in the cut scene, Ludlow doesn't mention anything about the Government.
At 10:44:37 PM on 7/13/2002, underdog738 said:
Raptor Strike, i was just reading the arguments against coder and you said "...stupider than Jimmy." well its shows how smart you are. Stupider isn't a word.
At 10:39:19 PM on 7/13/2002, underdog738 said:
Perhaps JP4 will be a prequel, explaining the fall of site B. Any conspiracies etc.
It would be boring to return to Site A, not as many dinosaurs. Site B would be better, imagine if they screwed up the genetic codes and ended up with say a raptor crossed with a spinosaurus. Who wouldn't pay to see an adult Tim or Lex fire a rocket into a mouth of a t-rex?
At 10:36:08 PM on 7/13/2002, underdog738 said:
I'll bet that within 2 days this board will have up to 100 comments.
At 10:33:55 PM on 7/13/2002, coder78 said:
Host, yes i do understand...now. Not arguing here but The hobbits did go straight to Bree with only one hit from the Black riders. Yes, but i just think that if it is unexplained from the movies just go by the book. Not everyone has to think that way but i do.
Red Spitter, Tom Bombadil was insignificant. He only sang songs and housed them for a few days. If you've read all of LOTR than you'd no that he doesn't show up again. If he was than they'd put him to film.
Oviraptor, maybe you're right. Maybe the Costa Rican Government did say it was destroyed so that no one would go.
But it seemes to me that y keep an island full of real dinosuars alive, where families could accidentally stumble across them. Remember the girl from TLW. It would be safer to destroy it and as for Site B, nobody but JP personnel and Hammond new it existed.
At 10:08:06 PM on 7/13/2002, Oviraptor said:
As for the reason why inGen doesn't go to Nublar to get species for the Park in San Diego.
Hammond may own Nublar.
He was only leasing it in JP, but maybe after the incident he bought it so that nothing could happen to the dinosaurs. And he knew all along about the dinosaurs on Sorna getting lysine from plants. Cause he said he had been protecting the island for 4 years. it was 4 years between JP's incident and the events that take place in TLW.
If they can get it from the plants on Sorna, then most likely they can on Nublar.
At 9:59:31 PM on 7/13/2002, Oviraptor said:
I mean we know inGen likes to cover up stuff just from Ludlow & Malcolm's arguements in Hammond's Apartment.
And do you really think Hammond would want his babys killed On Nublar, it seemed to me like he really cared about them in JP.
At 9:48:10 PM on 7/13/2002, Oviraptor said:
I think the whole thing about it being destroyed is just a cover up so no one will go there, and poke thier nose around in it.
Getting it bit off in the process.
At 9:42:46 PM on 7/13/2002, Oviraptor said:
If Nublar was destroyed why is it that inGen still keeps what went on there a secret, that only Malcolm runs his mouth about, which no one believes him and thinks he's crazy.
If it was destroyed then Malcolm has no evidence to back him up.
At 9:13:19 PM on 7/13/2002, The Host said:
Coder, I wasn't arguing with your point, just your logic -- that is to say, I don't think Site A's still around, either, but your reasoning is insane.
'. . .if something is unexplained from the movies and has reasonable evidence to support it then it should go by the book.'
First, this seems to be a shift in your argument, but I'll let that point slide. Because your new justification is only a little bit more reasonable (or, better stated, slightly less horribly unreasonable) than your old.
This is the point -- a movie is a movie, a book is a book. If it didn't happen in the movie, it probably didn't happen, even if it occurred in the book the film was based on. We can say that the hobbits visited Bombadil in the book; we cannot assume that the hobbits visited Bombadil in the movie and they just left that out. By the terms of the movie, the hobbits went straight from Hobbiton to Bree without incident. (Well, except for that whole Black Rider thing. . .)
In terms of JP, the movie: Maybe Site A was destroyed, and maybe it wasn't. We have no way of knowing. We might reasonably assume that it was, because of the mechanisms of the films' plots. But we cannot assume that Site A was destroyed because that's what happened in the book. When we're talking about the story in terms of the movie, the book is wholly irrelevant.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
-H
At 3:47:07 PM on 7/13/2002, Digalot8 said:
Isla Nublar has to have been destroyed, otherwise the Costa Rica government would have to protect two islands, plus one of the people in Grants speech from JP3 was like" you mean you would not go onto that second island if you had the chance" if Isla Nublar was still around than they would have said "you mean you would not go back to either one of those islands if you had the chance".
At 11:42:42 AM on 7/13/2002, Red Spitter said:
Coder, Tom Bombadil wasn't insignificant.
I really hope that JP4 takes place in Site A.
At 1:49:24 AM on 7/13/2002, Raptor Strike said:
OMFG. Exactly my point. Movies are movies, not mother fucking books. When those scenes are placed in other movies they are creating something new, that doesn't follow a book. Sarah gets licked, not Lex. There's an example. It doesn't follow the book. I'm not saying that Site A is there or isn't there, I'm just saying that your logic is fucked up.
At 12:16:07 AM on 7/13/2002, damagedgoods said:
i think a prequel is still the best idea, and nublar or the jungles of costa rica would be a good setting for the action. we've seen enough of the broken down compounds of sorna.
At 8:37:51 PM on 7/12/2002, Jurassic Surfer said:
I watched the movie called The Secret Of Nimh that was based on the book called Mrs.Frisby And The Rats Of Nimh and they were differnt. In the book a rat named Justin gets gassed and dies. In the movie it dosn't show it. In The Secret Of Nimh 2 he is still alive so that sums it up. Nublar was not bombed so there!
At 8:15:33 PM on 7/12/2002, underdog738 said:
Yeh. If Site A was pefectly good and intact then why invent another Island?
At 8:09:36 PM on 7/12/2002, coder78 said:
The Host, oh yeh and my logic isn't that if it happened in the book it happens in the movie. Gennaro died, ok, Hammond is alive, ok. I understand movies can stray from the plot but if something is unexplained from the movies and has reasonable evidence to support it then it should go by the book. Isla Nublar was not shown to be destroyed or left alone in all 3 movies, therefore it would be more accurate to go by the book but the chances are that Site A will not be used, y create Site B when Site A is perfectly good? Rumors are flying that it will be prequel, i doubt it will be on Site A as we witnessed the collapse in JP1 but the question that may make it a prequel is...Why did Site B collapse? Did Biosyn have anything to do with it? What about the deformities? Surely they can't have the gene sequence perfect at their 1st shot at it so what about the deformed dinoisaurs? Will we see them in future JP's?
The Host, thanx
At 8:00:36 PM on 7/12/2002, coder78 said:
The Host i thankyou very much. You summed up what i was trying to say in three simple paragraphs. And u complete my argument.
At 7:58:05 PM on 7/12/2002, coder78 said:
no, dumbcrap. It proves that sequences dont have to be there at certain times, Ludlow scene could be in JP4, ever consider that. No. Boromir death scene could of occured in any two movies or even been cut but it found its way to movie in the Fellowship. Any scene could come from anywhere and be placed anywhere. They could have put the Ludlow scene in before he was eaten at night, saying they could get more money rather than put it at the beginning. Scenes dont have to be specificly placed unless its a huge plot thing but otherwise it can be placed anywhere. Pteranodon scene was in JP3 rather than JP1, when the t-rex licks Sarah Harding the t-rex was meant to lick Lex in JP1.
At 6:44:43 PM on 7/12/2002, conor said:
coder you moron, you just contradicted yourself
At 1:55:48 PM on 7/12/2002, Raptor Strike said:
Hahahaha Coder. You're such a moron. You're as stupid or maybe even stupider than Jimmy. And what you pointed out proved nothing for your case, only things saying that I'm right. A movie is a movie. You pointed out that Boromir dies in the Fellowship movie but not in the book. There's an example right there of how movies are different from the books they portray. You're such a dumbass. Use your brain if you have one.
At 12:55:06 PM on 7/12/2002, The Host said:
Pardon me, that first sentence should begin, 'Speaking as a third year FILM student. . .'
-H
At 12:51:55 PM on 7/12/2002, paleeoguy said:
Oops, sorry. I meant Isla Nublar...
At 12:51:25 PM on 7/12/2002, paleeoguy said:
Isla Sorna could be in the next Jurassic Park film. Consider the possibility that there were flashbacks to its destruction...
At 12:46:39 PM on 7/12/2002, The Host said:
Coder:
Speaking as a third year student, speaking as a writer who has adapted screenplays from books, and speaking as somebody undoubtedly far more intelligent than you are, believe me when I say that a movie is not by any means bound to follow the book upon which it is based. It will usually take the title, and often elements, and sometimes even the basic plot, but films as faithful to their original text as HP and LotR were are rarities.
Jurassic Park, The Lost World, The Shining, A.I., most of the Frankenstein and Dracula films, A Prayer for Owen Meany (film Simon Birch), Schindler's List, Sphere, and dozens of other films have strayed far from their source material. Once a studio options a book, they can take the idea in any direction they wish, and have no obligation to remain faithful to the book (unless that is a stipulated convention of the contract with the author).
Jesus, by your logic -- which basically states that 'if it happened in the novel it also happened in the film whether they showed it or not -- then Donald Generro really survived, John Hammond was a ghost or a hallucination in The Lost World, and Ellie didn't really love Grant but planned to marry 'a nice doctor in Chicago.'
I don't think another film should take place on Isla Nublar, save a prequel of sorts. They only mentioned Nublar's destruction in a cut scene from TLW, which very well might have been cut so as to leave that option open. Still, the continued existence of dinosaurs on Isla Nublar seems highly unlikely. Nonetheless, more implausible elements have crept into this tale: Crichton, after all, brought his protagonist back from the dead.
-Host
At 5:16:30 AM on 7/12/2002, coder78 said:
oh yeh and before a movie is filmed it is a text, a story, a book whatever u bloody call it. So Raptor Strike u lose, i guess you cant hack as all Americans dont.
At 5:14:45 AM on 7/12/2002, coder78 said:
Raptor Strike u moron! It has to be inline with the frickin book! Same story etc just differently shown, in JP1 Grant encountered the Pteranodons with Lex and Tim this scene was adapted to JP3, as life will find a way the passage will find its way into the movie. Lord of the Rings had Boromir die at the end whereas in the book Boromir died in The Two Towers, the 2nd adapatation and yet it still made it to film. Arwen even made it to film in conclusion a movie based on the book must follow the same history, storyline and plot and characters!
At 4:14:50 AM on 7/12/2002, damagedgoods said:
also, ive created a amatuer jp4 fan trailer if you're at all interested. just send me an email if you want it.
At 4:13:06 AM on 7/12/2002, damagedgoods said:
hey what if JP4 is a prequel ? then it could go back to isla nublar without a doubt. if you read the books, it becomes pretty clear that there is a backstory that could be used to make a prequel, about sabotage and biosyn and stuff.
At 12:34:08 AM on 7/12/2002, Raptor Strike said:
My dear, dear Coder... GET IT THROUGH YOUR FUCKING MIND THAT MOVIES ARE NOT BOOKS!!! A movie is a movie you fucking reject. Just cause something happens in a book doesn't mean that it also happens in the movie, unless the scene is showed.
At 11:53:31 PM on 7/11/2002, coder78 said:
lickmaster...U IDIOT!
Site A is gone. The book is always more accurate than the movie, Black Hawk Down is a good example. Harry Potter as well, in the movie there were onlt 2 obstructions to the Philosphers Stone while in the book there were 3. See the books are more detailed and give a further insight into the movie or plot so before you blab about crap u dont know of read the godamn book. Also the Ludlow seen was cut because the entire reel would not handle it, critics would get cranky and also that seen was cut from the eentire script along with the ending of pteranodons attacking Malcolm and Co. It doesn'tmatter if it is cut, Tom Bombadil was meant to be in LOTR but he was cut because he was insignificant.
At 11:49:21 PM on 7/11/2002, coder78 said:
u no y TLW was not like the book, 'cos it was an absolute failure. They completely disregarded the plot and storyline, the reason they made it was because they thought they could rake in more $$$. JP3 is the only sequel that comes close to the books. Books have a huge impact LOTR for example, they didn't manipulate the story they told it the way it was and movies based on books must have a basis from the text or else it's plageurism. Also if the 1st island wasn't destroyed they y did they make up a new island. THe went to Site B where the dinosaurs were all over the place, the exact same situation as Site A. c'mon ppl face it, let it go!
At 8:05:20 PM on 7/11/2002, lickmaster said:
and because it didn't happen
At 7:10:04 PM on 7/11/2002, PostQuitMessage said:
The boardroom scene was cut because it was redundant and decreased the pace of the movie
At 6:45:55 PM on 7/11/2002, Raptor Strike said:
So...anybody have WarCraft 3 here?
At 6:20:31 PM on 7/11/2002, lickmaster said:
i even have a story plot!! Isla Sorna is getting to crowded so they send sum dinos back to Nublar (including T-rex and raptors) If u want more details email me at www.seanhaberlin316@hotmail.com
At 6:14:35 PM on 7/11/2002, lickmaster said:
a lot of u peeps dont even know what a movie is by the looks of it!! THE MOVIES R BASED ON THE BOOKS!!! IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE A COMPLETE COPY OF THE BOOK!!!in The Lost World movie there are no color changing Carnotosaurs and Kelly did not take anybody with her.In the book that all happened.AS LONG AS THE ISLAND WAS NOT BLOWN UP ON SCREAN AND NOBODY SAID IT WAS BLOWN UP IN THE MOVIE IT WASN'T!!!!take a guess why the scene of Ludlow and the others saying the island was blown up cut from The Lost World.BECAUSE THEY WANTED THE ISLAND INTACT TO DO ANOTHER MOVIE THERE!!! OH MY GOD JIMMY YOU ARE SUCH A FUCKING MORON!!!!! SAME WITH ALL THE OTHER PEEPS THAT THINK THE ISLAND WAS BLOWN UP!!!
At 5:53:03 PM on 7/11/2002, butterhook said:
ok, more squabbling, but here goes!
1) the books are a totally different concept to the films, what happened in the books, didnt HAVE to happen in the films, and vice versa. Therefore...
2) nublar wasnt destroyed by napalm, and i can find no evidence in any of the three films to suggest that it was destroyed at all
3)hammond saying "thank god for site B" was because nublar was a failier, not a smoking hole in the ground.
4) the boardroom scene was cut for a reason, and the reason was the speach ludlow made regarding nublar. nowhere in any of the three films does it say that isla nublar was destroyed, or re-visited after JP. if anyone can provide any evidence suggesting the oppisite, plz leave a message on here, or email me butterhook@hotmail.com
5) there have been 2 films on sorna, and 1 on nublar. to round off the series, the final one should return to JP's original island
any questions?
butterhook
butterhook@hotmail.com
At 1:43:10 PM on 7/11/2002, Neelis said:
I know! I'm laughing about myself right now!
Third island? How stupid!
At 1:03:41 PM on 7/11/2002, conor said:
god, you guys are acting like such nerds. just listen to yourselves
At 6:32:19 AM on 7/11/2002, Neelis said:
Simple answer: a thirt island, somwhere else on this planet, but nót near Costa Rica. A back-up plan, a reál back-up plan for when there would be trouble on site A and B. So, eventually we will get a site C. Surprise!!!
But it will nót be Nublar. Destroyd. Nothing left to explore.
Sorna is doubtfull, we have seen it all. They cannot hide anymore predators on that island.
At 4:38:26 AM on 7/11/2002, coder78 said:
yeh, as if. get a life its not realistic and will be shredded to bits by the critics therefore making the success rate plummet and increasing the chances of Universal not making a JPV if any. Mainland sucks, it'll just be a replica of Godzilla, think, the baby Godzillas r raptors, t-rex is Godzilla and the only new addition is the pteronodon so it's will be really unlikly. get it thru ur heads!!
At 4:35:37 AM on 7/11/2002, Aussie Embryo said:
Agreed, mainland or nothing! I thought it was stupid how JP3 was on an island AGAIN.
At 4:12:11 AM on 7/11/2002, MCHammer said:
The dinosaurs will build a bridge to Costa Rica. That's how they'll get onto the mainland.
At 2:59:11 AM on 7/11/2002, coder78 said:
Yeh that'd be awesome but there's a problem with the mainland plot. How would u be able to get a t-rex, raptor etc onto the mainland. Pteranodons r easy but no one will be willing to take the dinos to the mainland so its unlikely to happen but there r confirmations that it will be a prequel.
At 2:54:56 AM on 7/11/2002, KillerRaptor said:
Oops, I also forgot to list Lew Dogdson.
At 2:54:29 AM on 7/11/2002, KillerRaptor said:
I want Costa Rica for the setting of JP4 and I want characters from the JP novels never mentioned on the movies like Dr Guiterraz, Doc Thorne, Richard Levine, Ed Regis, Diego and, Baselton. I would also like to have special cameos by Ian Malcolm and John Hammond. BioSyn better be in JP4.
At 10:20:19 PM on 7/10/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
I agree a mainland film would rock.
At 10:14:06 PM on 7/10/2002, Oviraptor said:
No more Sorna either, the Costa Rican mainland or nothing.
At 9:47:04 PM on 7/10/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
Exactly Jurassic Park 4 should not take place on Nublar.
At 9:24:32 PM on 7/10/2002, coder78 said:
Remember ppl there are 2 islands, Isla Sorna and Isla Nublar they destroyed Isla Nublar so who could u make a sequel....oh yeh i no lets make up another story and bthe reason they cut the scene was becuase it would take up space in the movie and they thought that TRUE fans of JP would no that the island was already destroyed.
At 9:21:25 PM on 7/10/2002, coder78 said:
lickmaster AND THE REST OF U R ALL DUMB. get it in ur heads that Isla Nublar was destroyed, Grant saw it happen, they mentioned it in the TLW book and movie and there are many reasons they would destroy the island. A perfect example came up in TLW into where a girl was attacked, people don't u see destroy it so that 1: they can't escape and 2: noboy else gets hurt.
Now this claim absolutely shocks me. There are embryos on the 1st island. I used to think Americans were smart but now i have an entire perspective 'cos 1: Nedry cut the power causing all electric things to shut down including the embryo containers and 2: When the woman turned the electricity bak on, they left the island and how long do u think the electricity would last with dinsaours around it. Not very long and my final point is that they bombed the island, the embryos would of been destroyed as well.
Geez think before u speak!
At 9:15:39 PM on 7/10/2002, coder78 said:
conor have u read the books by chance?
Grant and co actually saw the island being blown up with Napalm by the Costa Rican Government and who knows maybe it was destroyed in the movie as well, it's most likely so before u make stupid remarks. READ THE BOOK! BOTH OF 'EM!
At 9:10:19 PM on 7/10/2002, coder78 said:
Great! It's inevitable!
We should see it in 2005, it should be better as Steven said and we should like it.
At 8:09:39 PM on 7/10/2002, Oviraptor said:
Only thing I don't like about them going back to Nublar, is they'd probably screw up the 15 species list.
At 7:49:24 PM on 7/10/2002, IngenRaptor said:
Haven't Ever Thought Just In Case Site B Is Found
Hammond would Of Left Nublar alone and not tell anyone Hammond Does Stuff like that
Jimmy Your a fucking Idiot The Books Don't Matter In The Movies Its Doesn't Matter What It Says Nublar Can Be Used Again In The Movies
At 7:25:23 PM on 7/10/2002, PostQuitMessage said:
Hammond: "Thank God for site B" [because site A was destroyed]
At 6:50:34 PM on 7/10/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
exactly
At 5:46:18 PM on 7/10/2002, Carter said:
The Boardroom Scene has been reinserted for TV showings. Its part of the JP universe, you can't ignore it. Besides there's too much other evidence shown throughout TLW, and even JP///.
We've been through this countless times before, it can't be refuted, there are no dinos on Nublar.
At 5:25:52 PM on 7/10/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
Read the book then. Nublar was destroyed.
At 4:40:37 PM on 7/10/2002, tobycompy2.0 said:
<font color=Brick red>OF course it is not destroyed, they obviously cut that scene with Ludlow saying it was destroyed because it would make it impossible for a sequel to take place there again, Jimmy you friggin' moron why the hell do you think they delete scenes?</font>
<font color=Brick red>
-What you just witnessed was the bite of the compy. Goodnight.</font>
<font color=Blue>The Timeline of the Gun is still out!</font>
At 4:23:20 PM on 7/10/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
Bullshit cut scene or no cutscene Isla Nublar was destroyed and Jurassic Park 4 should not take place there. In my opinion they should attack the mainland.
At 3:08:33 PM on 7/10/2002, IngenRaptor said:
Nublar Isn't Deystroyed The Scene was Cut So IT Has NO MEANING
JPIV WILL ROCK
I Hope Joe Directs
At 2:51:27 PM on 7/10/2002, lickmaster said:
Isla Nublar is still around and it still has a lot of dinos on it.remember when Nedry was taking out the Embryos from the things?if u remember that u know there are a lot more dinos on the island.Nublar was not destroyed.why the fuck would they destroy it? T-rex is not going to swim to New York or whatever and there is no evidence of any flyers being on Isla Nublar.Whats the use of destroying an Island thats doing no harm?
At 2:32:04 PM on 7/10/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
made another typo sorry.
At 2:31:34 PM on 7/10/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
Nublar was destroyed read the books watch the cut scene it is just to hard for you morons to understand. In my opinion that scene should have been left in buts thats history.
At 2:23:29 PM on 7/10/2002, BrachioInGen said:
according to a cut scene from TLW (which was cut because they didn't need any more plot/character development with Lublow) tehy state the island is destroyed... if it haden't had been, then why dind't they go to Nublar ever again? I think it's gone...
At 1:56:51 PM on 7/10/2002, conor said:
jimmy, nublar wasn't destroyed, it was in the books, but not in the movies, do you remember them saying once that the island was destroyed in either of the books? there ya go, not shut the hell up.
At 8:41:14 AM on 7/10/2002, Evilgrinch said:
2005 is gonna be an awesome year.
Star wars 3, Jp4, Indy 4.
I can't wait.
-Evilgrinch
At 10:48:58 PM on 7/9/2002, Jurassiclaw said:
>>I hope this JP has all the original characters go back to Isla Nublar<<
LMAO this is so old...
At 9:49:33 PM on 7/9/2002, JPExciter said:
YAY whoops shit I scared my dog with my excitement. JP4 is a go hellyeah!
At 9:23:52 PM on 7/9/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
Isla Nublar was destroyed. If Jurassic Park 4 took place there it would be fucked up.
At 5:56:37 PM on 7/9/2002, dixon said:
i just got my wisdom teeth pulled today, and this bit of news just made me feel 1105 better!!!!!!!!
At 4:54:15 PM on 7/9/2002, lickmaster said:
Spielburg should direct.it would be better. JP4 WOOOOO!!! I hope this JP is better than the last 2 JPs. I hope this JP has all the original characters go back to Isla Nublar.And i hope they do a good job on the T-rex
At 4:00:25 PM on 7/9/2002, andre1879 said:
This just made my day
At 3:14:21 PM on 7/9/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
Spielburg will produce it not direct it.
At 12:53:58 PM on 7/9/2002, Red Spitter said:
WOHOOOOO!!!! JP4!JP4!JP4!
At 12:40:12 PM on 7/9/2002, Bugsyboy87 said:
Yay, finally some of my info gets up on the site! I think the movie will still go for 2005, as Steven probably not direct, and producing is not that big of a deal. I hope he directs, but who knows...
At 12:12:23 PM on 7/9/2002, Jimmy 345 said:
It looks like the official announcement may be just weeks away. I think it will be out in 2005 that would fite the four years period.
At 5:08:49 AM on 7/9/2002, Mark said:
GREAT news, i think we are not far off from having JP4 officially announed and hopefully there will not be the problems that happend with JP3 this time
At 2:40:54 AM on 7/9/2002, Sinornis said:
let's just hope the project goes through and isn't put on hold or trashed.
At 2:13:12 AM on 7/9/2002, KillerRaptor said:
Lets just hope that there is a reasonable amount of time put in for the JP4 script.
Otherwise, if we have a bunch of screenwriters who can't figure out a half assed script like in JP3, then JP4 will suck.
At 1:47:32 AM on 7/9/2002, XxMojo JoJonxX said:
i dont care if the movie sucks... jurassic park movies will always be fun to watch unless they get unrealistic like "this time... the raptors speak english" or "curse of the spino" lol
At 1:40:35 AM on 7/9/2002, Raptor Strike said:
That's great news. Go JP4!!!
At 1:39:02 AM on 7/9/2002, Aussie Embryo said:
SWEET
Looks like we'll have a JP4 long before 2005. Probably 2004, cause Steven has Indy 4 for 2005.
At 11:52:32 PM on 7/8/2002, _jurassiraptor_ said:
It's a good thing.
At 11:25:54 PM on 7/8/2002, yvonne said:
Yes, this is encouraging news for sure. Hopefully, we'll get more details in the near future. :)
At 10:27:43 PM on 7/8/2002, PSteeler86 said:
I am exited now !!!!!!!!!!!
At 10:23:55 PM on 7/8/2002, Mr Goodbytes said:
Fantastic News!!! JP4 is a go as far as I'm concened.
P.S. Isn't it strange that 4 is also the $ on keyboards... Most people thought 3 was made to make $... Oh well, I want 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10...
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