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*cough* accualy _Baryonyx_ does have 4 openings in the skull ;) And the spine does accualy are a hell of alot to big then the _Suchomimus_ and they are about big enough for _Spinosaurus_ (I'm to laszy to go see what the ratio is on both of them for the spine size right now but by glance you can obviously see its closer to a _Spinosaurus_ then a _Suchomimus_) ;)
And the question is what is the logo supose to be, from what we see of how it looks, its a _Spinosaurus_. If your favorite dinosaur is _Suchomimus_ and the logos obviously not a _Suchomimus_ dont start trying to pervert every thign around to make it somehow possible. That is not how you solve problems. Maybe you can gripe and say. "_Suchomimus_ is better i wish it was a _Suchomimus_." That would be alot better. ;p
At 9:09:57 PM on 7/21/2000, TS146 said:
I think Suchomimus is the best guess for the jp3 main dinosaur. I think this because Baronyx was most likley a fish eater. Spinasaurs might be the main dinosaur but the spin on the jp3 logo looks smaller than a spinasaurs's would be .I am not saying that spinasaurs is not what the jp3 logo depicts I just favor the suchomimus theory.
At 9:08:05 PM on 7/21/2000, TS146 said:
I think Suchomimus is the best guess for the jp3 main dinosaur. I think this because Baronyx was most likley a fish eater. Spinasaurs might be the main dinosaur but the spin on the jp3 logo looks smaller than a spinasaurs's would be .I am not saying that spinasaurs is not what the jp3 logo depicts I just favor the suchomimus theory.
At 3:37:45 PM on 7/21/2000, sucho1 said:
a baryonyx has 4 holes in its skull, sucho onlky has three like the logo
At 11:30:13 AM on 7/20/2000, Ian said:
Sorry there, i mentt to italic all the things i was replying to, and i also responded to number 4 Under number 3, sorry for any confusion. I was fightign with my cat for control my my mouse and geuss either got carried away typing or forgot
At 11:28:23 AM on 7/20/2000, Ian said:
<i>1: the skull is almost exactly like that of a sucho
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AS Joxer said, they never found _Spinosaurus_ head and it is not "exactly" liek the skull of _Suchomimus_. If you are gonna base it on the skull alone id say _Baryonyx_!
<i>2: the sucho also has the large claw on his hand.
</I> That was a common characatristic of all Spinosaurids.
<i>3: sucho did supposebly hunt near water, and if spinosaur did have a large sail as he did it would either mean he was in a climate that was either very hot or very cold in oerder for him to need a sail that large.
</i> *COUGH* Ever heard of an Aligator they bask all the time and when danger nears BAM!, and anyway Who says its for Thermal regulation. It could very likly of been for sexual displayer or any the other likes. And i dont think somthing this big needs to be basking in the sun. Large animals regain heat very very well and it would probably be trying to get RID of head, so with Thermoregulation it would probably waning to be cooling off in the air and also maybe submerging in the nice cool water to cool down is hot body.
4:if spinosaur did have a sail it was probaly needed to regulkate his body temperuture and that would mean he would have to spen hours at a time just to cool or warm his body, there for meaning he would not be that meanacing.
At 11:19:40 AM on 7/20/2000, Joxer said:
Ok, Digilot all spinosaurid skulls *probably* looked like that (as someone said a Spinosaurus skull has never been found).
Also- I read the DML every day, they definately agreed on Spinosaurus, but with too many maxillary (or premax, I can't remember) teeth. This really doesn't matter, since the T.rex in the JP1 and JP2 logos was only an aproximation of the real skeleton (what's up with the vertebrae extending up the top of the skull?).
Baryonyx- Spinosuchus was *probably* a dinosaur, they only have vertebrae of it (hence the name). If it is a dinosaur, it's from the Triassic Carnian age, so it's either a herrerasaur/eoraptorid or some sort of coelophysid, definately not a spinosaur.
*sigh* the world may never know...
At 2:02:09 AM on 7/20/2000, Baryonyx said:
In my reaserch on the logo I found somthing very interesting, this is no joke, a dino called spinosuchus. I don't know what it looks like yet so i dont know if it matches the logo or not and I will be shure to look into it!
At 1:02:50 AM on 7/20/2000, Digalot said:
listen if there are going to make any part of the logo realistic is to atleast make the skull look real because that is about all they have to show on any of the jp logos, the head and the neck and arms so i challenge you:
1: the skull is almost exactly like that of a sucho
2: the sucho also has the large claw on his hand.
3: sucho did supposebly hunt near water, and if spinosaur did have a large sail as he did it would either mean he was in a climate that was either very hot or very cold in oerder for him to need a sail that large.
4:if spinosaur did have a sail it was probaly needed to regulkate his body temperuture and that would mean he would have to spen hours at a time just to cool or warm his body, there for meaning he would not be that meanacing.
At 12:55:36 AM on 7/20/2000, Baryonyx said:
Well I have been doing reaserch all day long! It all comes down to this. It's eather suchomimus or spinosaurus. Im not quite sure yet, but I will keep doing reasearch to feagur out what the hell it is on the logo. All I know is that it's one of the two. sucho or spino. It's hard to decide! one quick question, why is all of the writing here so big? Or maby it's my computer. Anyway I will have my answer on the logo soon.;)
At 11:56:42 PM on 7/19/2000, Ian said:
LOL you forgot to close your bold i think ;). Yeah a apoorly rendered with a Baryonychinae type of head (for those who dont know we havn't found _Spinosaurus_ skull so alot of people render it with a _Baryonyx_ type head cause they are both Spinosaurids) _Spinosaurus_ or poorly rendered a _Suchomimus_ with really long neural spines ;)
At 9:59:54 PM on 7/19/2000, Tango said:
While I can't entirely decide, I do agree that the animal can only be Spinosaurus or Suchomimus. Given the evidence, Spinosaurus does have a better advantage over Suchomimus for the sail, but this skull structure is more like Suchomimus, only considering the fact that most people don't relate this type of skull with Spinosaurus. But anywho, we definitley can't throw Acrocanthosaurus into the mix, because that animal looks nothing like the logo except for the sail.
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At 8:38:53 PM on 7/19/2000, Ian said:
First off you can very well use the head and the neck as a refrence ;). And second of all we cant say deffintly your correct, but we can look at it and all the charactristics and figure out what it most likly is, and thats a _Spinosaurus_ so far. Anyonewho thinks its a _Suchomimus_ I challenge you give me a list of all the difference the logo has between beeing a _Spinosaurus_ and a _Suchomimus_, all the reasons you can think of for it beign a _Spinosaurus_ and not being a _Suchomimus_ and being a _Suchomimus_ and not a _Spinosaurus_. Yes I have observed a discusion between Profesional Vertabrate Paleontologists discussing the JP3 logo, and the discusion i watched they all agreed it was a _Spinosaurus_,a poorly rendered _Spinosaurus_ but still most likly a _Spinosaurus_.
At 8:01:06 PM on 7/19/2000, Digalot said:
listen this animal was very long and if you are trying to gues the fin size of this creature based on only the the neck spines then this fin could be anywere from 2 feet to 10 feet. you realy can not guess the fin size unless you have the size or a size ratio, and if Johnson made the dino bigger( like they did with the raptors) then yo have nothing to base the finn size on
At 5:50:09 PM on 7/19/2000, Baryonyx said:
If the story is fake, then we still don't know what dino it is. (or have anidea. just becaose some professor said it's a sucho, doesin't mean it has to be) Im still doing some reaserach on the logo. Im guessing it's a acro canthosaurus or spinosaurus. It's probobly not acrocanthosaurus becaouse the sail was too short. I do think Its spinosaurus becaouse of the sail. spino was huge and fearce so that might be what it is.
At 3:08:48 PM on 7/19/2000, Ian said:
I've been gone for a while and back, this news story is fake. First off I can contact quite a few profesional paleontologists my self, and from reading in the DML a month or so ago most everyone agreeded it was a _Spinosaurus_ ;). I posted a link to a discusion in the DML on the message board a while ago, maybe yall should check it out?
At 1:36:06 PM on 7/19/2000, GoldblumRules said:
Well, even though the scoop is fake, I still think Suchomimus would make an excellent predator for JP3. Before I was iffy about the prospect of a fish-eating dino being the main "baddy," but the illustrations have convinced me that either Suchomimus or Baryonyx would make good predators.
At 12:48:31 PM on 7/19/2000, Digalot said:
it is a suchamimus what more clues do you need then the pics bellow
At 11:28:49 AM on 7/19/2000, graboid said:
ha ha ha im also known as giganotosaurus
i told yah it was suchiomimus
At 10:48:12 AM on 7/19/2000, Joxer said:
I know those pics are by Sereno. What I don't know is why he added an extra 2 or so feet to a sail that was only 2 feet high and ONLY over the hips. If the logosaur is Sucho they must have changed the size/placement of the sail. Look at any pics of Sucho other then Sereno's and you'll see what I mean.
And mrjoanofarc,
Suchomimus is called the genus (human genus- Homo). tenerensis is its species (human species- sapians). I.e. Suchomimus tenerensis is its complete binomial scientific name. There is only one known species of Sucho. ;) If there were more it would not just be called plain old Suchomimus, but Suchomimus somethingelsis. :)
At 11:45:36 PM on 7/18/2000, Tango said:
mrjoanofarc,
Actually I don't know what you're saying. There's only one known species of Suchomimus so far, and that's Suchomimus tenerensis.
At 9:48:23 PM on 7/18/2000, The Hatchling said:
Hmm... Interesting insight from from Paul Sereno. But I believe the only comments he had on the logo were in the first stanza of this article, I read the rest of this info from him a while ago when I was researching just what the heck a Suchomimus was, after my first time seeing the logo.
Also, has anyone tried contacting a Mr. Jack Horner or Stan Winston on this subject? I'm sure that they are interested, but I doubt either of them are willing to talk...
At 7:40:39 PM on 7/18/2000, North2000 said:
I would like to see several different logos for Jurassic Park /// ala Batman Returns.
At 7:26:56 PM on 7/18/2000, T-RAPTOR said:
At 7:26:20 PM on 7/18/2000, T-RAPTOR said:
OH HEY ITS ME AGAIN!
how did you put those cool pictures on your post cuz I have some cool dino pics I might put up for ppl some time!
thanx!
At 6:42:50 PM on 7/18/2000, Mr Goodbytes said:
Sorry about the misspelling.
At 6:41:41 PM on 7/18/2000, Mr Goodbytes said:
This pic was drawn by Paul Serano.
<img src= http://dinosaur.uchicago.edu/SuchSkel.gif>
At 6:36:33 PM on 7/18/2000, mrjoanofarc said:
Joxer,
There's a DIFFERENCE between a plain old Suchomimus and the "Suchomimus tenerensis" which the doctor ordered.
The Suchomimus tenerensis had a larger said than the regular Suchomimus.
Does anyone else know what I'm talking about here?
At 5:23:31 PM on 7/18/2000, Tango said:
Well isn't this intereseting. Suchomimus' popularity has seemingly skyrocketed in the polls from 125 today to 132. Not too far behind Suchomimus. Thank God Megaraptor never beat Sucho in the polls though.
At 4:20:54 PM on 7/18/2000, Siege_6 said:
Now I wonder if Ian will belive us. If he ever comes back.
At 4:05:37 PM on 7/18/2000, Joxer said:
Um... ok. I have seen pics of the actual Skelton of Suchomimus and it doesn't have a sail as big as in Mr. Goodbytes pic there. I also don't remember thumb claws but I could be wrong. Maybe the artist thinks the sail was different in males/females? And oh yeah, could it be that Dr. Sereno thinks the logo is Sucho because he *discovered* Sucho and he wants the publicity? Nothing against him, I think he a cool guy, but.... just a thought.
At 3:59:59 PM on 7/18/2000, Mr Goodbytes said:
I hope this pic works.
<img src= http://dinosaur.uchicago.edu/SuchFlesh.gif>
At 2:57:15 PM on 7/18/2000, Mess said:
Finnaly this post crap might be over!
At 2:22:50 PM on 7/18/2000, Baryonyx said:
I will=Ill
At 2:21:37 PM on 7/18/2000, Baryonyx said:
I have never seen a picture of a suchomimus so I don't know what one looks like. I know it's not baryonyx. so it's eather spino or sucho. Its prbobly what the guy ses it is. I think Ill wait untill the movie comes out to see what it is. But it's always fun to gues.
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