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On 4/14/2013 at 8:10:51 PM, raptor2000 started the thread:
I told myself I wouldn't make one of these threads ever again but, well, I didn't think I'd be in this situation again and I don't have many friends aside from you guys I can discuss this kind of thing with (I've known you guys longer than any of my current friends anyway). Those of you who are only going to say something sarcastic or mean, please just exit the thread now.
So there's a girl at work I've kind of had a thing for for...well, a few years anyway, but I've never had the balls to say something to her other than hi or whatever, and I never got much back from her anyway. Granted I never tried that hard, but whatever. Anyway, about a year and a half ago I hired an assistant manager for my department, who just so happens to be engaged to this girl's twin sister. Through circumstances that I won't go into detail about as it isn't really relevant, the three of them live together right now. My assistant invited me over last week for dinner and to hang out, and the four of us had a pretty fun evening together. It's really the first time I've had a chance to talk at length aside from a couple times here and there over the years.
Anyway, I'm a pretty shy person when it comes to girls, and I've been single for about 4 years and haven't asked someone out in....nearly a decade. Thing is though...she's really shy too, and I'm not sure if she's ever had a real boyfriend before. We seem to have gotten along pretty well the few times we've talked, but I have no way of knowing if it is just friendly talk or if she is interested (with my last gf, it was pretty easy to tell she was flirting...here not so much).
Anyway, I really like her, and I know she knows I'm interested in her because, well, all four of us (her, her sister, her sister's boyfriend who is my assitant, and me) work in the same place, and word gets around as I've discussed this with people I probably shouldn't have. I want to ask her out, but I'm worried that if she isn't interested, it could make things really awkward around my store. Granted, she isn't in my department so I wouldn't have to deal with her on a daily basis, but as I said...word gets around, and I don't want to be the subject of that type of gossip. I know people say you shouldn't date people you work with but, well, my last gf and I worked together (at first) and we lasted nearly 4 years together, and I don't really go many other places to meet girls I have a chance with. Plus, as I said, I like this one.
So here's the question...do I try to do a few more group hangouts with her and other people before I attempt to ask her out by ourselves? Do I try to do some more digging to see if she's interested? Do I grow a pair and just ask her if she's interested, or ask her out? And if so, what should I suggest we do for a first date?
Sorry if this all sounds a bit pathetic but I've never dated a ton of girls, and as I said, what little experience I had was years and years ago. Any advice would be much appreciated.
Msg #1: On 4/14/2013 at 8:50:22 PM, Raptor Vinny replied, saying:
Grow a pair and ask her out. As you said, she probably already knows. Not doing anything each passing day just makes you look like more and more of an non-confident pussy.
As for what to do, I dunno, what sort of things are there to do in your area? Is it a big city with lots to do, or do you have limited options?
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Msg #2: On 4/14/2013 at 8:59:57 PM, raptor2000 replied to Msg #1, saying:
Well I live in a suburb of Kansas City, so there are plenty of things to do. My assistant has told me the few dates she's been on before with other guys have been at bars, to which she didn't really respond well which is good because I don't even drink so I won't have to deal with the bar scene.
I thought maybe dinner and a movie or something like that for the first time...something simple that doesn't require a ton of socializing. We can do something more elaborate in the future if things work out.
Msg #3: On 4/14/2013 at 9:03:40 PM, Ostromite replied, saying:
Ask her out for coffee or a matinee movie.
Msg #4: On 4/14/2013 at 9:13:35 PM, Trainwreck replied, saying:
I agree with both Ostro and Vinny. I think asking her out and taking her somewhere simple (ie, a casual bar & grill or restaurant, but NOT Applebee's). If it's going well and your ass gets tired from sitting in the booth, go to Starbucks.
But look at it this way: you already think you're the subject of gossip anyway, right? It would probably deflate some of that if you just got it out in the open. Also pay mind do your company's policy before doing anything, but I'm sure you already thought of this.
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Msg #5: On 4/14/2013 at 9:44:50 PM, raptor2000 replied to Msg #4, saying:
Don't worry about company policy. Lots of people in my store are married, dating, or related. It isn't frowned upon in any way. Really the only restriction is you can't work in the same department as someone you are intimate with or related to, and even that is more of an unspoken rule than an actual policy, as I have had two sisters work in my department before (which was a disaster and I transferred one of them pretty quickly). And, as I mentioned, the girl I'm interested in has a twin sister who is engaged to my assistant manager. Furthermore - and not to belabor the point - I am in management, thus I am fully trained in what is and is not appropriate. :P
But yeah, now that I've typed all this out and thought about it, it is kind of foolish not to just go ahead and do it. I wanted to get to know her a little bit better first but I've been waiting for a long time. Like I said, she already knows I like her, and if she was offended or repulsed by that I suppose she wouldn't talk to me at all, or would let it be known that she didn't feel the same way (which, hopefully, she hasn't already done and people have just neglected to tell me). I guess the worst that could happen is she said no, or said yes and we had a crappy time, which would really suck considering I've had feelings for her for a long time, but I suppose I've been through worse.
Msg #6: On 4/15/2013 at 1:18:25 AM, Carnotaur3 replied, saying:
You're already answering you're own questions. Just have fun, flirt and ask her out. She says no, then oh well. But you shouldn't be bothered any way.
Have a quirky confidence about it. Go in expecting nothing.
Msg #7: On 4/15/2013 at 6:54:08 AM, Adam replied, saying:
Buck up and ask her. Either in person or via other means if you're particularly shy.
I just asked a girl out on a whim the other day. She's totally out of my league (pretty sure she has every guy and his dog after her) but we'd been chatting and texting for months (we used to work together, she left months ago) and getting on really well in general. We'd often catch up via seeing each other during nights out on the town, and then she'd come and hung out at my house a couple times so I could show her some tv shows. I've really educated her on quality shit, got her into Breaking Bad, Walking Dead, etc.
I don't know if any of you remember, but this is the same girl who back in the day didn't know what Prometheus was.
While I was in Europe, she spoke to me alot via fb chat and let me ramble on about all the shit I was doing, so I just thought 'fuck it' and asked her to hang out and have dinner or see a movie with me when I got back. She was keen.
It didn't really get labelled a date, but I took her to see Jurassic Park 3D last night - best first date/hang/whatever of all time. I paid for everything, naturally. Didn't even think she'd be interested in seeing it, but apparently she loves JP - instant points. And I presented her with a nice gift from Europe too, a rare non commercial perfume from the French countryside.
The good thing was, unlike on many other first hangs/dates with girls, I wasn't nervous at all (despite her probably being the most physically attractive girl I've ever gone out with) and there was no awkward silences or moments - we just got on great and chatted non stop. It felt very natural, which can only be a good thing, right? I think she's a fairly confident girl though, which probably helps.
I'm now in that awkward limbo moment just after the first sorta date where I'm trying to figure out if she considered it an actual 'date' and how soon is too soon to ask her to come out again. Working it out as we speak, actually.
Anyway, without hijacking your thread, take this as a sign. Sometimes things just work out when you grow the balls and do it. I too am very inexperienced in these kinds of things, but I guess you gotta luck out sooner or later. I think my recent experiences overseas have kinda given me a fresh outlook, and an ability to throw caution to the wind far more easily. It's kind of liberating.
Msg #8: On 4/15/2013 at 9:52:57 AM, Grizzle replied, saying:
Ask her out Bro... You don't even have to make it a big deal: just ask her out for a drink, or if you don't go to bars; ask her out for coffee or some shit.
I know the whole "dating a coworker" thing can be difficult, but when you're 80 years old and looking back on this, you probably won't give a shit, whether it goes well or completely and horribly wrong. Yeah, you may get rejected, but if that happens, then fuck it... move on... I know we've had our differences dude, but please listen to me when I tell you that it's better to give it a shot than to sit there for the rest of your life and wonder... "what if?"... I live this shit every day and I don't want you to make the mistake I did.
Take the chance now before it's too late. Good luck man.
Msg #9: On 4/15/2013 at 6:43:00 PM, raptor2000 replied, saying:
Well, fellas, I finally summoned the balls to just do it already, and I asked her out today. She said yes, and we are going out on Saturday evening. :)
Thank you to everyone who replied for the advice...I really appreciate it. I really hope this works out....I've liked this girl for years and it's been an awfully long dry spell for ol' raptor.
Msg #10: On 4/15/2013 at 7:11:58 PM, Varan101 replied, saying:
Good luck. There have been times when I didn't act and regretted it.
There's a girl who I am trying to go out with but she keeps giving me the run around so I'm just bout done with her. She keeps acting like she wants to date me but then never seems to have any time for a date. Yeah...
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Msg #11: On 4/16/2013 at 1:25:08 AM, Adam replied to Msg #10, saying:
Varan I've had that problem quite alot too, or setting up a date and then having them cancel last minute. I was too forgiving back in the day, now I'll given them 2 or 3 chances and after that, see ya...
Msg #12: On 4/16/2013 at 6:47:09 AM, raptor2000 replied to Msg #10, saying:
There actually was a girl not too far back that I asked out who said yes, but then she cancelled the day before and never bothered to reschedule, and just kind of blew it off whenever I tried to bring it up. Maybe I didn't make clear off the bat that I wanted it to be a date and not just friends hanging out and that's why she cancelled later on, but she always was flirty with me, even after that, so I don't know.
I think I made it fairly clear that I intended for it to be a date with this other girl, though (what other way can you take it when a guy you know likes you asks you out to dinner and to a movie by yourselves?) and she seemed pretty excited about it, so hopefully this one will be different. I suppose we will see on Saturday. For what it is worth, she gave me her number, then when I texted her later on so she would have my number and said I was looking forward to Saturday, she texted back and said she was too.
Msg #13: On 4/16/2013 at 8:30:57 PM, raptor2000 replied, saying:
Just a little update for those interested...I asked her today where she'd like to go eat and what movie she'd like to see. She told me where she would like to go and that there weren't any movies out she wanted to see and would rather just hang out at my place, and also that she "can't wait" for Saturday. :)
Msg #14: On 4/16/2013 at 9:48:24 PM, Bryan replied, saying:
I was going to add my two cents earlier, but honestly the others beat me to it, essentially saying verbatim what I had in mind. Regardless, I'm very happy to hear that "good times" seem to be in your future. :)
Good luck!
Msg #15: On 4/16/2013 at 10:26:06 PM, Varan101 replied, saying:
Yeah Good luck.
I asked this girl out one more time. Her response was "Why do you want to date me?". What the fuck? I'm asking you out on the first date, not your hand in marriage.
Then of course after I told her it was over, she was pretty hung ho about going out on a date. Too. Freaking. Late. Then she tried to make it sound like I didn't want to try. I've been trying for over a month to get to THE FIRST DATE.
Msg #16: On 4/17/2013 at 11:30:23 AM, Adam replied, saying:
Way to go raptor, give us the juicy deets. We won't tell anyone.
I'm going to try pin down this girl I'm keen on again, she's a hard one to get ahold of sometimes. I've come to the conclusion our movie hang wasn't date-y enough and so tomorrow I'm going to ask her to come have lunch or dinner with me sometime soon.
My only gripe is that lately I'm having to initiate every text convo. While I was away she was talking to me first alot. Who knows, might just be busy with work. We shall see.
Anyways, raptor, I was serious about those deets. I enjoy living vicariously through others.
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Msg #17: On 4/17/2013 at 12:03:16 PM, raptor2000 replied to Msg #16, saying:
I doubt there will be anything "juicy" to report for quite some time, even if things go well. Like I said earlier, I'm not entirely sure she's ever really had a serious boyfriend before, thus I don't even know if she's a virgin or not. It doesn't matter to me, but if she is then it'll more than likely take a while before we get to a point where we can be intimate. That doesn't really matter to me, though. I mean, eventually yeah I want to get to that point, and I hope it doesn't take too long because I've had a very long dry spell (almost 4 years), but for the time being it'll just be nice to have someone special to talk to and spend time with, especially with the Summer coming up...it'll be sweet to have someone to go do things around town with again. And furthermore, I can't even describe how great it feels to have somebody actually want to talk to me and spend time with me again, without making me feel like I am forcing them.
As for having to initiate every convo, that's what it was like with the last few girls I've tried to date, but this one has already started texting me and Facebook messaging me on her own, and talking to me at work without me having to say something first. We actually chatted back and forth via text and FB for about 3 hours last night. I mean, this is a girl who'd spoken maybe 12 words to me in the 3 or 4 years we'd worked together prior to last Thursday, and then I ask her out on Monday and we give each other our numbers, and by the next night we are staying up until almost 2AM chatting - albeit online - and we haven't even been on our first date alone yet. Pretty cool. Turns out we have alot of similar interests, so hopefully that will work to my advantage.
I don't want to jinx myself by jumping to any conclusions because, as I said, we haven't even been on our first one-on-one date yet, but just the change in her attitude and behavior towards me in just the last 2 days has been remarkable, so my hopes are high. I just want to make sure I don't slide into the just friends zone, but I made it pretty clear I viewed this Saturday as our first date, and she didn't back away.
I will be sure to keep you guys updated on my progress, though.
Msg #18: On 4/17/2013 at 10:53:45 PM, Adam replied, saying:
Those are all very good signs, as long as you keep the signals flowing that you are interested in her romantically, you won't fall into the friend zone. That's only happened with me in the past when I haven't made moves when I should have - I've actually had girls tell me they had crushes on me and wanted me to do something and I just never did, so they lost interest.
With this girl though it sounds a little trickier, as if she's never had a boyfriend or possibly might be a virgin, you don't really know what experience she has romantically, and so making a move could go a bunch of ways.
Just keep testing the waters. It sounds great with her talking to you constantly though. I'm sure you know the drill, watch for signs. I love it when a girl is totally obvious about it, moving in close, looking at your lips, playing with her hair, etc. Makes things so much easier. Some of them just never do that though, they'll sit there and expect you to jump on them or pull them in, which is the part I suck at still.
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Msg #19: On 4/18/2013 at 5:40:50 AM, MartinRandle replied to Msg #18, saying:
Update required!!!!
Msg #20: On 4/18/2013 at 7:44:24 AM, raptor2000 replied to Msg #18, saying:
Ugh, tell me about it. With my last girlfriend, she too was a virgin and had never had a serious boyfriend, so I tried to be a gentleman and take things slow. I found out later from a mutual friend that she was getting frustrated at my lack of advances towards her. Then, of course, after that you have to know exactly when to make the move, and precisely how far she wants you to go....does she want to go all the way, or does she just want to cuddle? Because if you try to do one and she wants the other, you're gonna be in for a very lonely evening. It's maddening.
At least with her, I knew she liked me before I asked her out. With this new girl, I don't know if she likes me or not. I know she knows I like her, and she said yes when I asked her out on a date, and she's been talking to me alot since I asked her out even though we haven't even been on the date yet. I made it very clear I intended this to be our first date and not just a friendly hang out and she was not repulsed by that, so I guess that's a good sign.
Msg #21: On 4/18/2013 at 12:27:53 PM, Neo The 1 replied, saying:
Here's some advice: just do it. If the girl likes you, she'll go with it. If she likes you but isn't ready she'll stop you.. sort of.. but you can still do it if you want anyway, or just continue along and try again in a couple of days. There won't be any sense of "did I make a mistake" because it will be so easily brushed off that it won't matter.
If the girl doesn't like you that's when it gets potentially awkward but that's a real big "who gives a shit" because then you stop wasting eachother's time. Any girl that puts you in a friend zone deserves to get fucked. It's actually easier to get out of this zone that you might think- you just have to act more or less exactly the opposite of however you were acting up to that point.
All this pussyfooting around "should I or shouldn't I" is why you losers don't get laid.
NOW GO FORTH AND BANG HOT CHICKS MY BITCHES!
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Msg #22: On 4/18/2013 at 2:03:31 PM, Ostromite replied to Msg #21, saying:
All this pussyfooting around "should I or shouldn't I" is why you losers don't get laid.
LMAO
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Msg #23: On 4/18/2013 at 2:44:28 PM, Trainwreck replied, saying:
I'm worn out on the subject of talking about bangin chicks. It's not rocket science, folks, so like Rez says, just fuck 'em, or don't. I'm happy for raptor and I hope this works out, but I don't want to hear details of his (or ANY board members') sexual exploits. I'd be more interested in discussin bizarre defecation habits. I'm actually defecating now.
I scratch my head over how some of you guys can be so fixated on others' sex lives. I'm not trying to sound mean or judgmental, I just don't get it anymore.
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Msg #24: On 4/18/2013 at 6:00:14 PM, raptor2000 replied to Msg #23, saying:
Just to clarify, I only created the thread because I wanted advice on how to proceed with this girl, as it has been years since I've tried to (not to mention succeeded at) asking a girl out. I was only sharing details on my progress because I thought you guys were interested. If and when we get to the point where we become intimate, those details will be known only to her and I, sorry. I don't kiss and tell. But everybody seems to share their relationship statuses on here, and being as how alot of you responded when I asked for advice, I thought I'd keep you updated. If you aren't interested, I won't bother. I'm not interested in Rez's macho bullshit. All my "pussyfootong around should I or shouldn't I" netted me a 4 year long relationship last time, and at this point in my life I'm hoping for this one to last even longer, if not indefinately, so I'm going to continue taking it slow unless she decides otherwise. I'm not doing all this to get laid. I'm doing all this to see if we are compatible for a relationship, and so far things are going well.
I'm not even looking for advice anymore, really. I've already got a date, and I'm just gonna see how it plays out from there. If you guys are interested in knowing how it goes, beyond intimate details (if there ever are any), I will share what I want to. If not, then consider this thread ended.
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Msg #25: On 4/18/2013 at 6:08:43 PM, Carnotaur3 replied to Msg #23, saying:
I made love to your poo, Chris.
Msg #26: On 4/18/2013 at 6:13:52 PM, dieterstark replied to Msg #24, saying:
I'm was interested in your progress and I haven't even replied to your thread; mostly because I've had the same problem for the past 2 years that you have. Losing confidence when approaching women. I always felt like if you weren't in their "group" or cligue that they've been with since middle or high school then you had no chance with them. Which was wrong on my part. I haven't had a good lay since my last girlfriend, 2 years ago.
You're progress, gave me a bit of hope, especially when she said yes after you were so worried. I understand how that feels. (the being worried/anxious over her part, not the saying yes part ;) ), good for you...now it won't be as daunting the next time you ask one out, and the one after that , I bet you'll be so used to asking out women again, by then it'll be like putting on a pair of shoes.
Its hard for us single guys with, really, a lot to offer, but are a bit too shy (I relate) to ask out the women we want, not just some random lay but the woman we, in our heart want...I've been in situations like yours Raptor, and regretted not acting and watching a loser who treats her like shit, brags about their sex life whenever she isn't around, and cheats on her...all because I didn't make the move first.
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Msg #27: On 4/18/2013 at 6:15:47 PM, dieterstark replied to Msg #23, saying:
"I just don't get it anymore"
You're too old to get it. And too confident with yourself around women; you silver-tongued devil you..
Msg #28: On 4/18/2013 at 6:20:48 PM, Snake Mark replied to Msg #23, saying:
lol... lol... lol.
Sadly, I'm on the same page... though... I'm not in the midst of defecating as I speak.
Msg #29: On 4/18/2013 at 6:23:16 PM, dieterstark replied to Msg #22, saying:
Its not THAT funny to all of us.
Now Neo_The_1, I can understand. He's the kind of abrasive and full of a 'don't give a shit' attitude kind of guy that women seem to love love love.
He makes a good point though, the "did I make a mistake" nonsense that goes through our over thinking heads helps nothing. The chick is over it, we may as well move on too in some situations.
Getting out of the friend zone, Neo, is not as easy for all as you make it seem.
I can't believe I'm trying this, but I'll ask anyway; Neo, got any more tips on exiting the friend zone?
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Msg #30: On 4/18/2013 at 6:30:57 PM, Ostromite replied to Msg #29, saying:
Here's a hot tip: stop calling it "the friend zone". It's not a penalty box for making a sexual foul. It means the girl doesn't want to fuck you, possibly because she realized that you were worried about her putting you in the penalty box. Nothing dries a pussy up like a guy trying to make his move while mentally calculating the consequences of not doing it right.
Msg #31: On 4/18/2013 at 6:51:51 PM, raptor2000 replied to Msg #26, saying:
mostly because I've had the same problem for the past 2 years that you have. Losing confidence when approaching women. I always felt like if you weren't in their "group" or cligue that they've been with since middle or high school then you had no chance with them. Which was wrong on my part.
That isn't even remotely close to the problem I've had. I couldn't care less what "group" she's in. My last girlfriend and I were in two completely seperate social circles (though we did have mutual friends as well) and we lasted for almost 4 years.
The trick, for me anyway, is not to ever get into the friend zone with the girl in the first place. With the 2 serious girlfriends I've had in the past (and what I'm trying to do with this new girl), I was never more than a casual aquaintance with the girl before I asked them out and we became a couple. Both my last girlfriend and the girl I'm going out with on Saturday were/are coworkers that I knew from work only, and had not done social stuff with outside of work, and my first serious girlfriend I met online through a friend before meeting in person on our first date. And, as I said before, make it very clear before you even go on the first date that your intentions are to form a romantic relationship, not to just make a friend.
Once again, I am not interested in "a good lay". I'm interested in a relationship. Obviously I want it to become intimate eventually, but I'm more excited about the prospect of the social aspect of it than anything else. And, to a degree, I've already gained that somewhat, as she has been texting me and Facebook messaging me off and on over the last few days as well as talking to me at work, and brought me some of the cake she made for her sister's bridal shower at work today.
I'm not worried about "making a mistake" or scaring the girl away by making a sexual advance too early, but I'm also not going to rush things - especially with an inexperienced girl - and I'm going to wait til she's comfortable with it. There is alot of middle ground between forcing yourself on a girl and never making a move. And that is as much as I care to see about the matter.
Msg #32: On 4/18/2013 at 7:07:35 PM, Trainwreck replied to Msg #24, saying:
Nah, I like this thread and find it cool that you made it. It's when other people ask you (or others) for details of someone else's sex life for no other reason than voyeuristic fascination that I find odd. It was one thing when we were 14, but all of us should have enough experience with the subject by now that it no longer holds our attention in the same way.
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Msg #33: On 4/18/2013 at 9:00:36 PM, raptor2000 replied to Msg #32, saying:
You don't have to worry about that. You all are like my digital brothers, but my sex life is not a topic of discussion that I will be sharing here (or anywhere else).
Msg #34: On 4/18/2013 at 9:15:49 PM, Neo The 1 replied, saying:
I'm not saying rape a bitch and I'm not being a macho asshole. It's a undeniable fact, nearly every woman hates a guy without balls; a guy who doesn't make a move, a guy who waits for too long and wastes too much time, etc. Most girls like sex just as much as us, and the few that don't just haven't been properly fucked. It isn't just about getting laid, but seeing as how the kind of shit you're fucking about with is essentially the one thing that draws the line between "good friendship" and "girlfriend" is physical attraction and activity, it's best not to sit around holding your dick and blur the line until one day she mentions that she thinks she's met someone(else, although she won't say else because by this point you're so far off their radar that it doesn't even make sense to include you in the list).
The one exception to this is the girls that find a shy guy cute, and if you were the kind of guy that girls found cute because of your obliviousness and shy attitude, you wouldn't have to be on here asking for advice.
Finally the attitude that "this is what I've always done and it's worked fine before" is a terrible one especially considering that you keep bringing up a four fucking year dry spell. We are not immortal and the window for these kind of relationships- that is to say, passionate, meaningful ones that actually rely on hormones and attraction, is extremely short.
Hope things work out for you with this one, but if they don't the last thing you should be doing is putting your dick in a box for another 4 years and just hoping for the best. It doesn't work that way.
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Msg #35: On 4/18/2013 at 9:40:53 PM, dieterstark replied to Msg #34, saying:
"We are not immortal and the window for these kind of relationships- that is to say, passionate, meaningful ones that actually rely on hormones and attraction, is extremely short."
Yep. At least for women...
We men can continue to procreate well into our 50's and sometimes even older. Women, uh...dry up by their mid 30's and 40's, no pun intended. So women over 25 mostly are not looking for a quick lay. They are looking for someone to marry, and to procreate with, and build a family with.
You know what, I think I'm just going to date 18-22 year old's for now on...until I meet that special girl, the one I'm going to marry; nice personality, cute/hot in a humble sort of way, and dinosaur tolerant.
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Msg #36: On 4/18/2013 at 9:51:12 PM, Ostromite replied to Msg #35, saying:
He's not talking about procreation, he's talking about fucking romance. Falling hard for someone and fucking them twice a day for six months and taking road trips just so you can sixty-nine in a hotel room and not have to clean up. You sound like a creep when you say women are looking for someone to "procreate with."
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Msg #37: On 4/18/2013 at 9:55:50 PM, raptor2000 replied to Msg #36, saying:
This.
Msg #38: On 4/21/2013 at 12:28:06 AM, raptor2000 replied, saying:
Just thought I'd let you guys know, tonight went fantastic. We hung out at my place for a bit, then went out to eat, then came back to my place and watched a movie and talked, before I introduced her to Game of Thrones. We were holding hands by the end of the evening, and I now know that she shares my feelings for her. We are spending some time together tomorrow, and have another date set up for Wednesday. :D
Plus, I've hooked yet another person on Game of Thrones, and clearly that's what is important. :P
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Msg #39: On 4/21/2013 at 8:35:56 AM, Adam replied, saying:
Just in case, I'm going to quickly chime in here and make it clear I was joking about the juicy details. I don't actually want a recount of his sexual encounters. Come on guys...
Raptor, way to go man. It's all sown up. You've inspired me.
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Msg #40: On 4/21/2013 at 11:02:03 PM, Trainwreck replied to Msg #39, saying:
LOL, that's good to hear. Might've made for some good spanking material though.
And way to go, raptor. Hope things continue to go well for you two!
Msg #41: On 4/22/2013 at 12:26:48 AM, dieterstark replied to Msg #38, saying:
Don't forget to use protection,
if you ever reach the lovel of procreation. Hah
Lovel- Dieter patented word meaning: level of love; love level; (that point in the relationship were you are each ready to take it to the next level of love)
Replies: 43, 44
Msg #42: On 4/22/2013 at 1:08:29 AM, Adam replied, saying:
Stop dietering up this thread, man.
You're our Britta.
Msg #43: On 4/22/2013 at 7:24:27 AM, raptor2000 replied to Msg #41, saying:
Please get out of my thread.
Msg #44: On 4/22/2013 at 8:22:51 AM, Kevy Mac replied to Msg #41, saying:
What Raptor said.
Msg #45: On 4/27/2013 at 1:35:48 AM, raptor2000 replied, saying:
Well I know I said I won't kiss and tell, but I guess I'm a hypocrite. I got my first kiss from her tonight, after an evening of cuddling and watching Game of Thrones, followed by bowling with her sister and sister's boyfriend. That's as deep into the intimate details as I'm gonna get, but I just felt like sharing that much. We both really like each other, and I am beyond amazed at the progress we've made in just the one week we've been dating. I can't tell you all how great it feels to, after finally summoning the balls to ask out a girl I've liked for years, not only find out those feelings are reciprocated but less than one week into dating already be where we are. It doesn't even feel like we are rushing things....just natural progression.
Anyway, there you guys go. For anyone keeping tabs on my progress.
Msg #46: On 4/27/2013 at 2:33:58 AM, Neo The 1 replied, saying:
sex
Msg #47: On 4/27/2013 at 6:46:14 AM, raptor2000 replied, saying:
Also, I woke up this morning to see she had listed us as being in a relationship on Facebook. And, as everyone knows, in the modern world becoming Facebook official is when you know it is legit. :P
Replies: 48
Msg #48: On 4/27/2013 at 9:26:21 AM, Grizzle replied to Msg #47, saying:
so did she list you two as being in a relationship or not?
holy shit don't keep us in suspense.
Replies: 49, 50
Msg #49: On 4/28/2013 at 7:01:06 PM, raptor2000 replied to Msg #48, saying:
Msg #50: On 4/28/2013 at 7:11:44 PM, Ostromite replied to Msg #48, saying:
Uh, he said that she did:
I woke up this morning to see she had listed us
Not "if she had listed us."
Msg #51: On 4/29/2013 at 2:23:44 PM, Carnotaur3 replied, saying:
Jesus christ, a week in and facebook status are changing? I don't know, that would personally scare me.
Replies: 52
Msg #52: On 4/29/2013 at 2:31:31 PM, raptor2000 replied to Msg #51, saying:
*shrug* I've liked her for a long time and she knows it, and apparently she's liked me for a while as well. I was a little suprised when she did it, but I'm not complaining. I'm just glad she's into me, and that things are progressing as well as they are. I'm not afraid of titles, and it isn't like adding that title suddenly speeds up, slows down, or changes any aspect of our relationship, be it intimate, social, or otherwise.
Now, if she was talking about getting married this early on, I'd be concerned, but we've been spent alot of time together over the last two weeks and had alot of fun every time. If she's already prepared to bestow boyfriend/girlfriend status, that's fine by me....it is something I've wanted for a long time anyway. Like I said, I've had feelings for this girl for years.
Msg #53: On 1/8/2021 at 12:02:55 AM, Raptor Vinny replied to Msg #38, saying:
She dumped you after that awful season 8, right? It's all your fault!
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